tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329600504016968888.post1004922602237677103..comments2024-03-27T15:47:46.091-05:00Comments on Pastoral Meanderings: The sex problem. . .Pastor Petershttp://www.blogger.com/profile/10653554256101480140noreply@blogger.comBlogger11125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329600504016968888.post-76086762134003174902014-08-10T14:08:57.060-05:002014-08-10T14:08:57.060-05:00Dear Joseph, Thank you for the info, I will look a...Dear Joseph, Thank you for the info, I will look at it.<br /><br />However, I was not intending to get into a discussion about "Orthodoxy." In my typically round-about fashion (where my intent probably gets lost), I was attempting to <b>agree with Pastor Peter's statement</b>:<br /><br /><i>"The only fruitful path will be for Orthodoxy and Roman Catholicism to pay more attention to the Confessional Lutherans like the LCMS."</i><br /><br />God bless you.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329600504016968888.post-91017335163774023022014-08-10T08:38:34.749-05:002014-08-10T08:38:34.749-05:00Dear Anonymous addressed to Joseph,
Since this is...Dear Anonymous addressed to Joseph,<br /><br />Since this is not the proper forum to discuss Orthodoxy I will be brief and leave it at this. The notion that we must be in communion with some Patriarch even when the Patriarch preaches heresy is a RC notion that is foreign to Orthodox saints, confessors, martyrs and canons. If you are sincerely interested in what I meant you can learn more here http://www.hotca.org/orthodoxy/orthodox-awareness/236-why-the-true-orthodox-are-truly-orthodox<br /><br />and here:http://www.hotca.org/orthodoxy/orthodox-awareness/josephnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329600504016968888.post-53201071768243582642014-08-09T14:14:41.451-05:002014-08-09T14:14:41.451-05:00Fr. D, you are correct, it is located in Damascus,...Fr. D, you are correct, it is located in Damascus, Syria. I was always thrown off by their use of Antioch.<br /><br />http://orthodoxwiki.org/Church_of_AntiochAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329600504016968888.post-57842099570332895732014-08-09T12:49:38.265-05:002014-08-09T12:49:38.265-05:00. . . One other thing, if the Orthodox were alread.... . . One other thing, if the Orthodox were already willing to talk to the liberal branch of Lutherans, why would they not be willing to at least look our way and engage in the same kind of discussions?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329600504016968888.post-57247908208415017332014-08-09T12:46:48.864-05:002014-08-09T12:46:48.864-05:00Fr. D, Yes, the Antiochians do look down on us (L...Fr. D, Yes, the Antiochians do look down on us (LCMS) for the most part. We have many differences. But the big one they point out is our doctrine of Justification. Christ's work on the cross for our forgiveness is not enough -- Alone. They subscribe in part to a "ladder" theology. (Saint John Climacus -- http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Climacus )<br /><br />Another, they don't understand how we can be so divided over "high"church/"low" (contemporary) church. The Orthodox priest I know said "you will never see a praise band in an Orthodox church." To which I said, "Thank the Lord." The LCMS system is, now, seemingly a 2-party entity with Pastors/churches believing that they are completely autonomous and they can do whatever they want. However, every church/Pastor is supposed to subscribe to the BoC. Whereas the Orthodox are governed under a hierarchal system but without a Pope like the RC.<br /><br />Like I said, they love to convert LCMSers. The priest I know has invited me to email him once a week with any theological questions that I have -- because whenever I am with him I hit him with one or two and he always graciously answers me (we've known each other for years).<br /><br />So, I say, what is the harm in talking? What harm would there be in knowing each other better? Just like with the Roman Catholics, there are areas where we do agree and could have a kind of loose coalition so to speak. But, maybe that exists already.<br /><br />Anyway, I'm only a layman. These are just my thoughts.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329600504016968888.post-52867156439801492182014-08-09T10:15:44.832-05:002014-08-09T10:15:44.832-05:00To Anonymous at 10:41 pm ---
If I am not mistaken...To Anonymous at 10:41 pm ---<br /><br />If I am not mistaken, the headquarters of the Antiochian Orthodox is now located in Damascus, Syria, rather than in Antioch.<br /><br />You wonder why the Antiochians do not come talk to the LCMS? There is stunningly little in common, so why would you expect them to do so? One of the largest Antiochican parishes is located near my home. They are mostly former Anglicans and worship with the American Missal, an Anglican form, complete with bells, incense, processions, etc., all things that would scandalize most LCMS.<br /><br />Fr. D+<br />Anglican Priest<br /><br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329600504016968888.post-42530496230033043632014-08-08T19:04:52.744-05:002014-08-08T19:04:52.744-05:00"The only fruitful path will be for Orthodoxy..."The only fruitful path will be for Orthodoxy and Roman Catholicism to pay more attention to the Confessional Lutherans like the LCMS." Perhaps. But this seems unlikely since the Book of Concord calls the pope the antichrist. <br /><br />I'd argue greater ecumenical dialogue is more likely between Continuing Anglicans and the Orthodox and RC churches. (And I am not referring to the Church of England or the Anglican Church of North America. The former ordains women and the later can't make a decision on whether to ban or accept WO).<br /><br />JamesAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329600504016968888.post-22781982675688917272014-08-08T13:19:56.446-05:002014-08-08T13:19:56.446-05:00"The only fruitful path will be for Orthodoxy..."The only fruitful path will be for Orthodoxy and Roman Catholicism to pay more attention to the Confessional Lutherans like the LCMS." Yeah. That'll happen. <br /><br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329600504016968888.post-24642599975681688002014-08-08T11:48:25.109-05:002014-08-08T11:48:25.109-05:00Justifying sexual sin as a virtue, promoting homos...Justifying sexual sin as a virtue, promoting homosexual acceptance, advancing feminist philosophy, denying the immorality of abortion for convenience, as some progressive Lutheran theologians presently do, is like putting a new coat of paint on an outhouse. It may have a new paint job, but it is still an outhouse, nothing more, nothing less.John Joseph Flanaganhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06596324816480709495noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329600504016968888.post-86369483706859914952014-08-08T09:17:03.110-05:002014-08-08T09:17:03.110-05:00exists - not exits. exists - not exits. Joseph Braggnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329600504016968888.post-77323872746480488652014-08-08T08:01:53.335-05:002014-08-08T08:01:53.335-05:00You speak of Orthodoxy as though it is represented...You speak of Orthodoxy as though it is represented by Constantinople. Constantinople no longer exits. It is Istanbul, Turkey and Orthodoxy no longer exits there. There may be one or two thousand there who still profess to be Orthodox but the Patriarchs there have consistently betrayed the Orthodox Faith and can no longer be considered Orthodox. You can't be an unorthodox Orthodox. The true Orthodox Church today does not exist in the so-called "official" Church. It exists among those bishops who have separated from the "official" and who still hold, believe and practice the Orthodox Faith. The Orthodox Church is not an organization or denomination but the mystical body of Christ who holds the apostolic faith unchanged.Joseph Braggnoreply@blogger.com