tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329600504016968888.post112688231964797763..comments2024-03-27T15:47:46.091-05:00Comments on Pastoral Meanderings: Learning How to PrayPastor Petershttp://www.blogger.com/profile/10653554256101480140noreply@blogger.comBlogger5125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329600504016968888.post-44118857336260131992009-10-24T19:12:24.773-05:002009-10-24T19:12:24.773-05:00Pastor:
I rather regularly read your blog to my ...Pastor: <br /><br />I rather regularly read your blog to my edification.<br /><br />I am a Calvinist, old school, Anglican, so we have some differences...yet, as one with respect for the Formula of Concord...with, as you may imagine, some places of disagreement.<br /><br />Those issues to the side.<br /><br />Big picture: spot-on about liturgy.<br /><br />Am hiking to my friends this great post.<br /><br />Congrats.<br /><br />PhilReformationhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06818168068978748081noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329600504016968888.post-90519529195628681872009-10-23T21:00:02.966-05:002009-10-23T21:00:02.966-05:00Yes, Chris, we need to get past the idea that the ...Yes, Chris, we need to get past the idea that the fathers are no longer models of prayer. The problem is the evangelicals almost completely discount the fathers.<br /><br />As a former evangelical, it has been a great gift to begin to read and pray the prayers of the pray-ers. <br /><br />Of course, since most evangelicals (at least in the South) are Dispensational, Israel and her habit of praying "pre-written" prayers (the Psalms) also gets tossed. Had the fathers not learned from the Hebrews...<br /><br />Praise God for His grace!Janis Williamshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02947508427040251166noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329600504016968888.post-50183108823045401572009-10-23T14:32:57.442-05:002009-10-23T14:32:57.442-05:00My priest has always said: Make prayer your own. ...My priest has always said: Make prayer your own. The Holy Fathers are a lot smarter than we are and I think that their words, at least this was the case for me, were what I had been trying to say for a long time in my own heart, but couldn't do it on my own. Whenever I pray a prayer of St. John of Damascus, St. Basil the Great, St. John Chrysostom, St. Augustine, etc., their words become mine. It's far better than merely stumbling and bumbling around like Evangelicals who seem to only pray about "we are thankful to be in your presence and, uh, uh, we ask that you make your presence known to us, and uh, uh, uhm that you are present" etc. <br /><br />There is often the objection that unless the prayer is spontaneous, it's not sincere and not useful (at least according to Evangelicals) which is faulty because even those prayers of Chrysostom were once uttered spontaneously! We need to get past the idea that the fathers are no longer models of prayer. If we held prayers to the criteria of spontaneity, then why do we pray so often the Lord's prayer?Chrishttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06200319733737651773noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329600504016968888.post-87994151629908441382009-10-23T09:53:13.945-05:002009-10-23T09:53:13.945-05:00Thank you for your edifying words, Pastor Peters. ...Thank you for your edifying words, Pastor Peters. In praying those beloved texts the link between us and those who have gone before becomes so tangible and we are given time-tested models of prayer that teach us how to pray well.<br /><br />I've always loved The Lutheran Book of Prayer in all its incarnations and the current edition is one of the first things I acquired when I came back to my Lutheran roots.<br /><br />Like Sue, my day doesn't begin or end properly without Luther's morning and evening prayers.<br /><br />ChristineAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329600504016968888.post-87906530322514491692009-10-23T09:32:19.011-05:002009-10-23T09:32:19.011-05:00Thank you for writing this. I don't feel I'...Thank you for writing this. I don't feel I'm a great pray-er, and it's only in the last 8 months that I've finally developed, with the help of the Spirit, a regular prayer time in my life. I'm using my Treasury of Daily Prayer and the Lutheran Book of Prayer. Those who have prayed before me have great words that touch my heart - what better way to learn to pray than to use these as a foundation. And the day does not start or end properly for me without Luther's morning and evening prayers. It was good to read what you have to say about prayer - I find it great encouragement on my journey.Suehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04503743050696171950noreply@blogger.com