tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329600504016968888.post1760648956366816360..comments2024-03-29T04:31:15.219-05:00Comments on Pastoral Meanderings: Protestant Hymns for Catholic Use...Pastor Petershttp://www.blogger.com/profile/10653554256101480140noreply@blogger.comBlogger5125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329600504016968888.post-64496329638882389212016-01-25T01:25:00.523-06:002016-01-25T01:25:00.523-06:00Nice post, I bookmark your blog because I found ve...Nice post, I bookmark your blog because I found very good information on your blog, Thanks for sharing more informatiom .<br /><br /><br /><a href="http://www.catholicbestbuy.com/audio-video/music-and-song" rel="nofollow">Catholic Songs</a>Campbellhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02822211378762274872noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329600504016968888.post-84458935994816645732014-01-26T14:14:24.102-06:002014-01-26T14:14:24.102-06:00Northcountry1
It is mind-boggling to me to hear th...Northcountry1<br />It is mind-boggling to me to hear these Catholic fundamentalists talk of a Catholic/Protestant divide on hymns.<br />I attend St Ignatius of Loyola Chruch on Park Avenue in New York city. It is home to the world renowned "Sacred Music in Space" http://www.smssconcerts.org and also the great H.P. Mander organ.<br />Our masses on Sunday are filled with singing--ancient. medieval, and contemporary. <br />Our choir just this morning sang pieces by Kellner (Lutheran) Bach (Lutheran) Thomas Talis (catholic) Mozart) <br />The congregation sand Catholic and Protestant hymns.<br /><br />I think I belong in the church of Pope Francis who is trying to overcome these religious divides. Music is is a starting point.<br />By the way this is a Jesuit ChurchNorthcountry1https://www.blogger.com/profile/16851815543584120721noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329600504016968888.post-2388251750363314662013-06-21T02:06:43.330-05:002013-06-21T02:06:43.330-05:00For the beginning I'd like to respond to unkno...For the beginning I'd like to respond to unknown. From 1524, Protestants have shown that ordinary people without a basic musical education, simple peasants, who have learned to read from Luther Bible, were able to sing hymns to God in the liturgy. were either Lutheran or Reformed. <br />Joanne <br />Please do not call the Baptists and Methodists sectarian. Baptists are church and congregations from 1600 and in 1689 have already developed beautiful confession of faith. London Baptist Confession of Faith 1689. Baptists participated in the conception and formulation of Westminster Confession of Faith.<br />And Methodists are a broken wing from the Church of England and ar 100% Protestants. Is it true that they are young, after 1700 but from the beginning was true Protestants hwo identified with the Protestant Reformation from the sixteenth century.Claudiushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02725611847868584588noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329600504016968888.post-5640655688196658922013-01-29T22:39:29.219-06:002013-01-29T22:39:29.219-06:00I agree that Lutherans can use Catholic hymns from...I agree that Lutherans can use Catholic hymns from before the Reformation, but not afterward. We may use any orthodox hymns that are orthdox in doctrine. I dont think they have an new ones since St. Romanus. We should have the Symeron Kremate in our hymnals and the Xrhistos Anesty hymns. And as many Lutheran hymns as will fit.<br /><br />Now you won't have any room for sectarian and enthusiast hymns, but I'm not opposed to putting a small collection of those at the very rear of the hymnal under Sectarian Hymns, listed by sectarian name Baptist, Methodist, Pentecostal. It's extremely important for Lutherans to know when they are not singing Lutheran hymns.<br /><br />And the rubric is, no non-Lutheran hymns may be used in any one service, until at least 3 Lutheran Chorale hymns have been sung.<br /><br />You might want to know that at Bach's time, the hymns were sung a capella with help from the choir or special music leaders with trained voices. Your organist can play the most beautiful hymn preludes, but not play the hymn for accompaniment of the congregation. Give that 5 minutes worth of thought. Also, all the churches in Leipzig that had an organ, had their own organists. Bach did not play the organ in Leipzig except for emergencies. I would use something like a glokenspiel to bang out the hymn melodies before each hymn, after the organ hymn prelude.Joannehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09777514643611989502noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329600504016968888.post-65751971038321702542013-01-26T20:30:28.871-06:002013-01-26T20:30:28.871-06:00Catholics have their own hymn tradition and should...Catholics have their own hymn tradition and should absolutely not use Protestant hymns, regardless of whether they are doctrinally pure and/or consistent with Roman Catholic doctrine and dogma. What's the point of being Catholic if you're just going to use the same materials used at the Lutheran church down the street? Why the need to keep blending and assimilating from heretics? WE've seen the results of this from Vatican II, when the Novus Ordo came about thanks to the "input" of 6 Protestant ministers from Tuebingen. The results? The Mass is become more of a spectacle for entertainment rather than a prayer. Besides, the whole idea of congregational singing is a bad one. Congregations cannot sing because the vast majority of people lack a basic musical education; that's why there are chanters.--ChrisUnknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08038508116670615703noreply@blogger.com