tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329600504016968888.post2653865597168158910..comments2024-03-27T15:47:46.091-05:00Comments on Pastoral Meanderings: Living with an Ozzie and Harriet mentality in an Ossy and Sharon Osbourne world...Pastor Petershttp://www.blogger.com/profile/10653554256101480140noreply@blogger.comBlogger10125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329600504016968888.post-37553876936180325322011-11-01T11:00:01.256-05:002011-11-01T11:00:01.256-05:00Anon, they probably wouldn't put it so bluntly...Anon, they probably wouldn't put it so bluntly, but yes one of the first steps in the church growth process is to assess felt needs and ascertain how those needs can be met. Of course figuring out what people want and trying to give it to them is not any sort of evangelism that one would find in scripture. And as Pastor Peters pointed out so clearly, the vantage point for missions and evangelism is not an angst riddled head count, but confidence in the Gospel and the means of grace.Rev. Allen Bergstrazernoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329600504016968888.post-40302194245543553582011-11-01T10:36:11.550-05:002011-11-01T10:36:11.550-05:00If this is the future of the church, let alone the...If this is the future of the church, let alone the LCMS, God help us. Talk about reinventing the wheel. Worst talk I have struggled to listen to in months, if not years. Absolutely horrible. Miserere nobis, Domine!Paulhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09350908137437557142noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329600504016968888.post-56744652768974244362011-11-01T08:52:13.171-05:002011-11-01T08:52:13.171-05:00Rev. Allen Bergstrazer,
In other words, OnWord re...Rev. Allen Bergstrazer,<br /><br />In other words, OnWord recommends that the Church should try to "shoehorn" its theology to be in harmony with the existing politically correct beliefs of the community. Why bother. If they want a social activist Jesus, they should leave the LCMS for the ELCA.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329600504016968888.post-33565480956792941532011-10-31T12:52:33.396-05:002011-10-31T12:52:33.396-05:00^Anon;1040AM, community exegesis would be gatherin...^Anon;1040AM, community exegesis would be gathering a cultural understanding of the community at large or the community gathered for discussion. Followed shortly thereafter by scriptural eisegesis to find proof texts to support the suppositions they've made vis a vis the community exegesis.Rev. Allen Bergstrazernoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329600504016968888.post-27896096177693321752011-10-31T10:40:38.412-05:002011-10-31T10:40:38.412-05:00From the OnWord website:
"During our formati...From the OnWord website:<br /><br />"During our formation we entered into a process of Christian worship and teaching, contemplative prayer, cooperative discussion and community exegesis"<br /><br />Community exegesis? Huh????Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329600504016968888.post-28646943553356052882011-10-31T10:00:36.927-05:002011-10-31T10:00:36.927-05:00The video is what it sounds like in the 21st centu...The video is what it sounds like in the 21st century when the proverbial Talent (Matthew 25:24-25) being buried. God calls us to be faithful, and it seems too often my brothers in the clergy cannot tell the difference between being faithful and being successful.Rev. Allen Bergstrazernoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329600504016968888.post-73656886117634206622011-10-31T08:55:51.359-05:002011-10-31T08:55:51.359-05:00Read what "OnWord" stands for...JesusFir...Read what "OnWord" stands for...JesusFirst part 2Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329600504016968888.post-70968256259615811052011-10-31T08:45:37.651-05:002011-10-31T08:45:37.651-05:00One more and I'll quit.
The Church has 'r...One more and I'll quit.<br /><br />The Church has 'retreated' to Africa? As if they are doing it the way he advocates: Does he not know they are more confessionally Lutheran than some of the most 'traditional' (read; broken) American congregations?Janis Williamshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02947508427040251166noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329600504016968888.post-12164452558388914792011-10-31T08:34:54.658-05:002011-10-31T08:34:54.658-05:00If I sounded a little upset, I am.
If anyone who ...If I sounded a little upset, I am.<br /><br />If anyone who reads pastor's blog would like to see just where this stuff (polite term) is going, check out: <br /><br />www.fightingforthefaith.com. <br /><br />Chris Rosebrough regularly reviews sermons from Evangelical 'churches' that are being followed by these "passionate" men and women. Note the lack of labels in the video. We know he loves the mysterious works of God in Baptism and the Supper, but not really what that means.Janis Williamshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02947508427040251166noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329600504016968888.post-72293086659464465772011-10-31T08:27:58.998-05:002011-10-31T08:27:58.998-05:00Arrrgh!!!!!
I thought I left this stuff behind wh...Arrrgh!!!!!<br /><br />I thought I left this stuff behind when I left the Baptists, and then the 'emergent' PCA (Presbyterian Church in America)!<br /><br />When will people stop reading Leslie Newbigin, Rob Bell, Brian MacLaren, et al ad nauseum? Read Holy Scripture and the Confessions!<br /><br />Read Dietrich Bonhoeffer - "We do not build the church."<br /><br />I am tired of hearing how the Church needs to be 'creative.' Now I hear we need to have creative Sacraments and Theology. We need to enlist all those passionate lay people who think we should have women pastors! <br /><br />I have a seminary education, albeit from a Baptist seminary (ask anyone who knows me, and they'll tell you I was NEVER a good Baptist). I would not, could not put myself above 'herr pastor.' Even if everyone in a pastor's congregation is better educated than he is, that doesn't change the fact that God Almighty has commissioned him, and that Jesus Christ speaks through him every Divine Service.<br /><br />IF IT AIN'T BROKE, DON'T FIX IT!!!!!!Janis Williamshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02947508427040251166noreply@blogger.com