tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329600504016968888.post316888837798002129..comments2024-03-29T04:31:15.219-05:00Comments on Pastoral Meanderings: Competing Calendars...Pastor Petershttp://www.blogger.com/profile/10653554256101480140noreply@blogger.comBlogger4125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329600504016968888.post-91264077173125611202010-11-21T07:37:16.852-06:002010-11-21T07:37:16.852-06:00Not to throw CPH or the comission on worship under...Not to throw CPH or the comission on worship under the bus, but the three year ILCW series didn't help with the understanding of the church year, and now having an adaptation of that can make the flow of the readings through the year (particularly through the sundays of pentecost) seem a arbitrary in the best of times and downright inscruitable at the worst.Rev. Allen Bergstrazernoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329600504016968888.post-66236062292938263002010-11-21T05:09:26.815-06:002010-11-21T05:09:26.815-06:00To not "know" the Church Year is not to ...To not "know" the Church Year is not to say they could not give a basic explanation of what follows what in that calendar... rather it is to say that they do not know what it is unfolding or how it moves in this process or follow this calendar in their thinking and piety... Does that help?Pastor Petershttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10653554256101480140noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329600504016968888.post-2997526388220297522010-11-20T19:57:18.078-06:002010-11-20T19:57:18.078-06:00Anonymous uncharitably calls Pr. Peters a Pharisee...Anonymous uncharitably calls Pr. Peters a Pharisee for his observation that "So many Lutheran Pastors do not know the church calendar." And to make it even more grievous did not have statistics to prove it. As a layman, and speaking anecdotally, I would agree unreservedly with Pr. Peters. In fact, I have had a pastor confess to me while we were discussing liturgy and the church year, that he really didn't know much about either. So much for what was learned in the seminary in that regard! And beyond that confession, most of the pastors I have known have amply demonstrated either their lack of knowledge or their indifference to liturgy and the church year. Could it be, to use an earlier observation from Pr. Peters, that they were uncomfortable in their Lutheran skins?<br />--Bill H.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329600504016968888.post-45552882660158558772010-11-20T13:29:34.065-06:002010-11-20T13:29:34.065-06:00Quote from Pharisee Peters:
"So many Lutheran...Quote from Pharisee Peters:<br />"So many Lutheran Pastors do not <br />know the church calendar" This is<br />not backed up by any factual data,<br />but it merely a strawman and off the<br />cuff hybris. I believe our Sems at<br />Fort Wayne and St. Louis are able<br />to teach the church year in their<br />worship courses and newly ordained<br />pastors are able to preach the<br />assigned lectionary for the church<br />year.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com