tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329600504016968888.post3296807080753747592..comments2024-03-29T04:31:15.219-05:00Comments on Pastoral Meanderings: Ooooooh to be British....Pastor Petershttp://www.blogger.com/profile/10653554256101480140noreply@blogger.comBlogger7125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329600504016968888.post-77625177489377290932011-06-23T10:28:40.859-05:002011-06-23T10:28:40.859-05:00St. Ambrose would be please. This sent chills dow...St. Ambrose would be please. This sent chills down my spine. Thanks so much for posting such evidence for the power of hymnody!Paulhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09350908137437557142noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329600504016968888.post-8053987064211628442011-06-23T08:04:56.166-05:002011-06-23T08:04:56.166-05:00Oh, and as for the title of the post, you should b...Oh, and as for the title of the post, you should be very careful about what you wish for!Tapani Simojokihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06050897388566829272noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329600504016968888.post-10700688779858132882011-06-23T08:04:27.992-05:002011-06-23T08:04:27.992-05:00... the wisdom of musicologists since LW in replac...<i>... the wisdom of musicologists since LW in replacing the glorious and beloved hymn of TLH with "Guide Me Ever, Great Redeemer" and stealing the tune from "God of Grace and God of Glory."</i><br /><br />I suspect the wisdom was linked to the fact that the (American) tune in TLH was an American peculiarity, whereas the rest of the Empire has been singing this hymn to Cwm Rhonda more or less since the tune was written (in the 1910s). "God of Grace..." is a later text (1930s, I believe).<br /><br />One should also note when England plays rugby, the stands ring with a slow, majestic "Swing low, sweet chariot".Tapani Simojokihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06050897388566829272noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329600504016968888.post-73425617470650520512011-06-23T00:46:19.144-05:002011-06-23T00:46:19.144-05:00Well Chris, I suppose one could say everything wen...Well Chris, I suppose one could say everything went to hell after the Romans left. Hell, hoist one for Boudica! But you know we Angles were invited over, and Angle-land, England, gets it name from us.<br /><br />The UK is as much a melting pot as the US, but the melting largely happened centuries ago so it doesn't seem that way now.<br /><br />Except in the somewhat uneasy relationship of Wales and Scotland, not to mention the Irish, in the UK. But the singing of the hymn is hardly religious event; it is laden with cultural and national pride.<br /><br />Nonetheless the hymn is also part of English big deals, most recently the wedding of the Duke and Duchess of Cambridge, which in turn echoed its use at the funeral of the Duke's mother, Diana, Princess of Wales (though the title has no significance in Welsh governance).Terry Maherhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17122266461403246084noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329600504016968888.post-85026046096918000052011-06-22T14:42:50.137-05:002011-06-22T14:42:50.137-05:00It warms the heart to hear that many men singing. ...It warms the heart to hear that many men singing. You will find the Welsh, Irish and Scots are not afraid to be heard singing together in public, Americans are uncharacteristically reticent. This is what you get when hymns are a part of the culture and the fabric of life. <br /><br />PS; got a kick out of the fellow singing along holding a plastic cup of beer.Rev. Allen Bergstrazernoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329600504016968888.post-33614937295570199432011-06-22T11:25:38.903-05:002011-06-22T11:25:38.903-05:00I love this hymn, and it is remarkable and inspiri...I love this hymn, and it is remarkable and inspiring to hear it sung at so secular an event as a rugby match. But the Welsh love nothing better than to assemble as large a chorus as possible and sing the hymns of their heritage.<br /><br /><i>(if Welsh can be considered British)</i><br /><br />The real question is not whether the Welsh can be considered British, but whether anybody else can really be considered British. The Welsh were the native population of Britain when the Anglo-Saxons were still worshiping Thor and Odin in Frisia, Saxony, and Jutland.<br /><br /><i>Cymru am Byth!</i>Chris Joneshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03220498656377282715noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329600504016968888.post-74885802468750299552011-06-22T07:12:18.707-05:002011-06-22T07:12:18.707-05:00Bread of heaven feed me till I want no more!Bread of heaven feed me till I want no more!Rev. Weinkaufhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06109679164669873385noreply@blogger.com