tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329600504016968888.post3649177486871122355..comments2024-03-27T15:47:46.091-05:00Comments on Pastoral Meanderings: Innovative. . . probably not. . .Pastor Petershttp://www.blogger.com/profile/10653554256101480140noreply@blogger.comBlogger3125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329600504016968888.post-75278119651104670182015-03-15T06:45:56.196-05:002015-03-15T06:45:56.196-05:00I'll try to be nice to the Church basement lad...I'll try to be nice to the Church basement ladies, but I do have high expectations of my beer and brat ;-)Ted Badjehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03220879004715648795noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329600504016968888.post-51510719387758090852015-03-14T09:04:59.727-05:002015-03-14T09:04:59.727-05:00Visionary leaders (like those at Hillsong, C3, Sad...Visionary leaders (like those at Hillsong, C3, Saddleback, Willowcreek, Newspring, Elevation, to name a few of the biggies) become exactly what Bonhoeffer was dealing with in his day: Fascist leaders. Not pastors, but leaders who hear directly from God, and cast the vision to their people. They are as infallible as the Pope, and if you don't get behind the vision, you're out. This is NOT something for anyone, much less Lutherans to borrow!<br /><br />A great many of those who 'debunk' traditional…values have in the background values of their own which they believe to be immune from the debunking process. CS Lewis<br />Janis Williamshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02947508427040251166noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329600504016968888.post-88279040037017959442015-03-14T07:48:51.341-05:002015-03-14T07:48:51.341-05:00Well....I guess I am among the dull and boring cla...Well....I guess I am among the dull and boring class, but I do accept new ideas that work, and know that not all new ideas are good ideas at best. Some churches are always looking for new programs, strategies, ideas and ways of presenting the Gospel, and they repackage the word of God with emotional appeals and lots of PowerPoint imagery.....but.....they forget the fact that the central message is the same as it has always been: John3:16. Simply delivering the message, stating it as the Bible declares it...and letting God be the one who brings in His elect....seems to me the right approach.John Joseph Flanaganhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06596324816480709495noreply@blogger.com