tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329600504016968888.post4091250571618073881..comments2024-03-29T04:31:15.219-05:00Comments on Pastoral Meanderings: Reading Between the LinesPastor Petershttp://www.blogger.com/profile/10653554256101480140noreply@blogger.comBlogger9125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329600504016968888.post-67275658236162170672010-06-19T12:42:04.180-05:002010-06-19T12:42:04.180-05:00Excellent points. And, yes, the liturgy still has ...Excellent points. And, yes, the liturgy still has a catechetical function, even with all our books. When I go to visit an elderly member who is suffering from some sort of dementia, she may not remember my name. She may not even remember her children's names. But the very last things these people forget is liturgical. They still join in on the Lord's prayer, the Creeds and other parts of the liturgy. This, too is important and comforting both to them and those who love them. The "do it yourself differently every week" crowd fails to offer anything of comort or spiritual food to these poor souls.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04355249998369855647noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329600504016968888.post-25654527636393408532010-06-19T09:27:00.208-05:002010-06-19T09:27:00.208-05:00does the liturgy have a catechetical function?
in...does the liturgy have a catechetical function?<br /><br />in the way olden days, books were scarce and most could not read. Yet, they say the Gospel in the churches stained glass windows and heard it in the Mass, at least until latin was no longer the language of the people.<br /><br />today, we have books but are unread. We have unbelievable means to talk to talk to each other and do not communicate.<br /><br />cph provides extraordinary resources, yet people do not avail themselves.<br /><br />It really does seem that the only chance of educating most is through the liturgy. Fortunately, the current liturgy biblical based and God works through His Word; He come to us to purify us and share a meal with us.<br /><br />I do not partake of these liturgical discussions but I wonder if the liturgy does not have a catechetical function and if that function is being set aside in favor of ego?<br /><br />mark of brightonAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329600504016968888.post-3801302681137958182010-06-19T08:19:01.656-05:002010-06-19T08:19:01.656-05:00The article is spot on. However, it is interesting...The article is spot on. However, it is interesting to note that there has been such a destruction of the liturgy in so many parishes for so many years (decades) that a pastor coming in and 'depersonalizing' Sunday morning by using the hymnal-as-written is often accused of doing the same thing that the 'roll your own' guys are doing.<br /><br />EJGRev. Eric J. Stefanskihttp://HolyTrinityLC.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329600504016968888.post-32251575312153787742010-06-17T16:08:19.505-05:002010-06-17T16:08:19.505-05:00As Pastor Bergstrazer notes, using the lectionary ...As Pastor Bergstrazer notes, using the lectionary disciplines preachers to proclaim Christ crucified and not the latest book from Oprah.Rev. Kevin Jenningsnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329600504016968888.post-50975911883176806222010-06-17T13:59:07.285-05:002010-06-17T13:59:07.285-05:00Ernest. Christ says "the greater is the one w...Ernest. Christ says "the greater is the one who serves." When we are the primary 'giver' in worship and God primarily the 'receiver'- we are taking greatness upon ourselves and God relagated to a lesser position. Our Confessions boldly state (according to Scripture) the highest of worship and praise is to recieve what our Lord desires to give -His Word, forgivness, the Sacrament.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329600504016968888.post-11496995783947995542010-06-17T10:10:37.247-05:002010-06-17T10:10:37.247-05:00One the wisest things I was ever taught about wors...One the wisest things I was ever taught about worship is this; 'the liturgy, lection and hymnody protect the congregation from the pastor's folly."Rev. Allen Bergstrazernoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329600504016968888.post-82415813360715126972010-06-17T08:38:19.086-05:002010-06-17T08:38:19.086-05:00Primarily, worship needs to be about what God is d...Primarily, worship needs to be about what God is doing, contrary to what ErnestO states. Faith which receives God's gifts is the highest worship, according to our Lutheran Confessions. <br /><br />Certainly, that same faith which first "receives", then responds with praise & thanksgiving as well.Was ist das?https://www.blogger.com/profile/11352637972006158455noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329600504016968888.post-58191755575675336702010-06-17T08:30:43.788-05:002010-06-17T08:30:43.788-05:00This comment has been removed by the author.ErnestOhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13077415409728022160noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329600504016968888.post-64465888804837632502010-06-17T07:13:49.632-05:002010-06-17T07:13:49.632-05:00I do not follow discussions on many of the popular...I do not follow discussions on many of the popular "forums" or the like - but the thing that I have noticed is that many of the proponents of creative worship practices do not simply "create" but also reject.<br /><br />I have "created" something on various occasions here. When one of our members was heading off to the Seminary, I turned the farewell and Godspeed to a candidate for Ordination into one for a Seminarian. I wrote a hymn that I used a time or two. But these are slight - they add to the tradition, not overwhelm and do away with it.<br /><br />There needs to be room for folks to adjust rites to local custom - there needs to be room for the poetical to write new verses or the musicians to write new tunes - but these need to be adding to the heritage of the Church rather than replacing it.Rev. Eric J Brownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17747919365522145094noreply@blogger.com