tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329600504016968888.post5064661091422507692..comments2024-03-27T15:47:46.091-05:00Comments on Pastoral Meanderings: Anecdotal orthodoxy. . . Pastor Petershttp://www.blogger.com/profile/10653554256101480140noreply@blogger.comBlogger6125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329600504016968888.post-57815040966739906762019-09-07T14:35:58.590-05:002019-09-07T14:35:58.590-05:00While there is no indication of any doctrinal cert...While there is no indication of any doctrinal certification (or if the Commission on Doctrinal Review existed in 1941, the TLH is an officially authorized hymnal, according to the <a href="https://files.lcms.org/wl/?id=iskV7khp2mV1mVskPB8Q1IXOCXKFRytD&path=1917-1947%2F1941-LCMS-Convention-Proceedings.pdf&mode=default" rel="nofollow"><i>Proceedings of the Thirty-Eighth Regular Convention of the Ev. Lutheran Synod of Missouri, Ohio and Other States</i></a> (June 18-27, 1941, pp. 316-7), Committee 8: <br /><br /><i>Recommends:... That all congregations of Synod be urged to use the new hymnal in the interest of uniformity in church services....<br /><br /><b>Action of Synod</b>: These recommendations and resolutions were adopted in the above form.</i>Carl Vehsehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00348831096001668813noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329600504016968888.post-397585102434858402019-09-06T15:13:10.684-05:002019-09-06T15:13:10.684-05:00First, with respect to "TLH has never had its...First, with respect to "TLH has never had its doctrinal certification" I do not believe that TLH was ever submitted for doctrinal review before publication nor was there such a process in place as LW and LSB went through. . .<br /><br />Second, with respect to those who love TLH, as do I, it might be hard to admit but significant LCMS members were not even born when TLH was predominantly used and many who were alive were not Lutheran so they do not have any fond remembrance of TLH. Many of them grew up with LW if they were Lutheran (those born when LW was published would be 37 today) or were not even Lutheran until LW or LSB were the published. That does not disparage TLH but is simply historical fact.Pastor Petershttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10653554256101480140noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329600504016968888.post-15296705268177345692019-09-04T10:49:58.634-05:002019-09-04T10:49:58.634-05:00I think your parishioners remember TLH, along with...I think your parishioners remember TLH, along with LW, which no congregation uses anymore. If they don't remember TLH with fondness, it's probably because at the end of the hippy dippy 1970s, with its twin attack of Pentecostal campfire worship and Seminex-fueled liturgical movement that thought Vatican II could do no wrong, which made TLH seem, well, dull, plodding, and boring.<br /><br />What we couldn't see for ourselves then was TLH was like the music of Bach, the finest hymnal ever produced in the English language. We ditched our liturgical music that sprang from Saxony during the time of Bach for some River Forest modernist liturgical tunes. Texts were added and language modernized in violation of Luther's urging to pick one text (biblical, catechism, hymns, liturgy) and stick with it, so the laity can memorize it. No wonder the most robust liturgical singing in any LCMS congregation is that to Divine Service III.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329600504016968888.post-63794351613043739682019-09-04T10:49:02.991-05:002019-09-04T10:49:02.991-05:00Since I am not a Lutheran, I'll not speak to w...Since I am not a Lutheran, I'll not speak to which version of the service should be used, but I will comment on the associated Lectionary issue.<br /><br />The argument that I have usually heard in favor of the three year Lectionary is "it exposes the people to more Scripture."<br /><br />That is certainly true, but the cycle is so long that when a particular lesson is repeated in the 4th year, having last been heard in the 1st year, it has long since been forgotten. People no longer associate particular readings with any particular Sunday; they can't recall what was read on that Sunday last year or the year before. This destroys the logic of the Lectionary cycle. I wholeheartedly support the use of a one year Lectionary. Reinforcement and the association of particular lessons with specific Sundays is a critical part of Christian teaching.<br /><br />Fr.D+<br />Continuing Anglican PriestAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329600504016968888.post-69040970245564138542019-09-04T10:10:35.555-05:002019-09-04T10:10:35.555-05:00TLH remains an officially authorized hymnal of the...TLH remains an officially authorized hymnal of the Missouri Synod. CPH still sells TLH, especially the pew edition. TLH has never had its doctrinal certification suspended or removed. The choice and continued use of TLH by various Missouri Synod and other Lutheran congregations is an example of Christian liberty expressed in AC.VII.2.Carl Vehsehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00348831096001668813noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329600504016968888.post-15699326864903702019-09-04T06:03:45.593-05:002019-09-04T06:03:45.593-05:00We still use TLH and page 15.We still use TLH and page 15.David Grayhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11966977894876326659noreply@blogger.com