tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329600504016968888.post6671524769583653498..comments2024-03-27T15:47:46.091-05:00Comments on Pastoral Meanderings: The ChildFREE LifePastor Petershttp://www.blogger.com/profile/10653554256101480140noreply@blogger.comBlogger6125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329600504016968888.post-44986792071267730902013-11-27T15:54:46.771-06:002013-11-27T15:54:46.771-06:00I'm not sure what you mean by that Anonymous.
...I'm not sure what you mean by that Anonymous.<br /><br />My faith in God is certainly not dependent on having children - and there is certainly no Biblical or Theological reason at all to suggest that having children enhances one's faith. <br /><br />If anything, children are a distraction from your own faith, as time and effort is removed from God to look after the children.<br /><br />If you are suggesting that the only way in which we can glorify God is by having children, then yes, the church is in trouble. And quite rightly so, for that is heretical teaching...BillSnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329600504016968888.post-49411098712794621702013-11-27T08:01:52.296-06:002013-11-27T08:01:52.296-06:00I need to comment no further than to quote what yo...I need to comment no further than to quote what you have written:<br /><br />"I can glorify God much, much better without being encumbered by the baggage of a child..."<br /><br />As long as children are baggage and an impediment to your faith, we are in big trouble in the church and in the world...Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329600504016968888.post-4511763349772940432013-11-26T22:23:38.589-06:002013-11-26T22:23:38.589-06:00The Author is simply making the same 'mistake&...The Author is simply making the same 'mistake' that he is accusing the childfree...<br /><br />The author is idolising something that isn't God. Let me show you why:<br /><br />"In the past marriage and children were the marks of adulthood but today we live in a world in which adulthood, marriage, and children are not the highest of goals for a generation that worships youth, freedom, and a lack of strings attached to life."<br /><br />There is no mention of God in this. Instead, we have idolising 'youth and freedom' over 'marriage and children' as the cause of the 'problem'.<br /><br />What should the church do? "change the minds of those within the congregation"<br /><br />Where is God in any of this discussion?<br /><br />The couple expecting their third child may well have had issues with coping with their first child? - having a third? - finanical concerns are quite valid. If they do not have enough money to raise another child.... And as they didn't have any local family, then who is going to help them?? Is the author going to take days off work to look after a sick child, change nappies, etc ? <br /><br />Sounds like the congregation had some very sound and valid concerns that should have been picked up by the church elders.<br /><br />Children are a blessing - not a curse... If a child is going to be curse, then where is God's plan in that?<br /><br />Not everything is better with a child...<br />Restaurants are far nicer without screaming children, as are cinemas and any other Adult orientated activity (even going to church is often better without the hindrance of a screaming child!)<br /><br />I can glorify God much, much better without being encumbered by the baggage of a child... BillSnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329600504016968888.post-75727669741218544132013-10-30T19:41:51.024-05:002013-10-30T19:41:51.024-05:00I really think you are mistaken. I know of no one ...I really think you are mistaken. I know of no one who has heard the words from the liturgy and used them to justify their refusal to allow for the potential of children (meaning birth control). What this refers to is that there are many couples (1 in 6 by some estimates) who are infertile and therefore, unable to conceive apart from God's will and miraculous intervention. That does not mean they have not sought out adoption but this is not easy anymore (abortion has taken care of children who might have been adopted).Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329600504016968888.post-56950107403745600112013-10-30T11:43:29.843-05:002013-10-30T11:43:29.843-05:00The same thread running through your "Islamic...The same thread running through your "Islamic Dollar" post is present here. Either you are being catechized by the culture or the Church, and when the Church does not speak clearly about what the whole counsel of God teaches regarding stewardship, procreation, materialism, self-sacrificing service, etc. etc. there will be problems. It is not legalistic to instruct Christians about how to walk as children of light and to try and learn what is pleasing to the Lord - it is Biblical. This is closely related to the LCMS muddle about the third use of the law. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329600504016968888.post-20104830305844216802013-10-30T10:51:10.477-05:002013-10-30T10:51:10.477-05:00Here's part of the problem and I know you won&...Here's part of the problem and I know you won't see it the same way. I posted on this sometime earlier about the service liturgy for weddings in a Lutheran church. If Lutherans keep on making childbirth as something that is only God's will, how many people do you think are going to say "we don't have children because it's God's will." They're going to use it as an excuse. No children=God's will, even though the couple is practicing birth control and has no intention on having kids. As long as Lutherans and other Christians keep insisting that children is not a requirement (poor choice of words, I know; I'm really not trying to be legalistic about this), but something "nice" a mere "add on" to marriage, can you really be surprised by this? I'm not. <br /><br />The problem is that Lutherans have routinely dropped the ball over the years, condoning birth control and paying more attention to marriage as happiness rather than fulfilling God's first command to Adam and Eve.<br /><br />Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08038508116670615703noreply@blogger.com