tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329600504016968888.post6882846613384054935..comments2024-03-27T15:47:46.091-05:00Comments on Pastoral Meanderings: Less about Moore is better. . . Pastor Petershttp://www.blogger.com/profile/10653554256101480140noreply@blogger.comBlogger5125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329600504016968888.post-54375839063043039332016-12-05T13:05:01.445-06:002016-12-05T13:05:01.445-06:00Might one, perhaps, before offhand and without fou...Might one, perhaps, before offhand and without foundation accusing Pastor and Master of Divinity Anthony Masinelli of not having considered things wisely and being harsh and legalistic, and before dismissing Dr. Walther, consider applying both some humility and some wisdom so give some thought to what is actually being discussed, and what is actually being said about it?<br /><br />For example: might it be that the term "Methodists hymns" not only means that hymns happen to have been written by Methodists, but also that they reflect Methodist (that is: un-Lutheran and un-Biblical) attitudes and approaches to the faith, and thus would have to be covered by the phrase "doctrinally wrong"?<br /><br />I would not consider that impossible. I would not even consider it unlikely. Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11921246275185939140noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329600504016968888.post-43198130373378638682016-12-04T08:56:35.351-06:002016-12-04T08:56:35.351-06:00Rev Masinelli, lest we become too harsh and legali...Rev Masinelli, lest we become too harsh and legalistic, we have to consider these things wisely. Referring to other denominational doctrines contrary to Lutheran distinctives, we must speak our peace. We cannot embrace that which we know to be untrue or a false interpretation of scripture, however, we must also understand that some brothers and sisters in Christ may follow incorrect theology yet still love the Lord and hold the foundational and redemptive principles of the faith. In ignorance, some may follow false doctrines....but God...who knows the heart, still counts them among the saved from each generation. As for Beth Moore, I would stand by what was said earlier. As for hymns with a Methodist or Baptist origination, I would part ways with Walther. Unless a hymn is doctrinally wrong, I see no problem singing it inside or outside of church. Many songs and hymns are really very uplifting and Biblical, and many were not written by Lutherans, and we cannot be at fault in using them.John Joseph Flanaganhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06596324816480709495noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329600504016968888.post-64897744150274924312016-12-03T22:52:56.810-06:002016-12-03T22:52:56.810-06:00Beth Moore is an enthusiast who proclaims "Je...Beth Moore is an enthusiast who proclaims "Jesus is My Boyfriend" theology into itching ears, in addition to the errors noted in the post and comment above. In 1883, C.F.W. Walther wrote to a Lutheran pastor, “Now, however, since our church itself has everything it needs, it is unpardonable when a preacher of our church causes little ones to suffer the shame of eating foreign bread.” ("Response to a Lutheran Pastor Regarding the Use of Methodist Hymns," Lutherans Online, n.d., web, www.lutheransonline.com, March 2016.) Scripture clearly tells us to "avoid" those who spread falsehood and division (Rom. 16:17; 2 Tim. 3:5), and to "have nothing to do" with them (1 Tim. 4:7; Tit. 3:10). For the average person, embracing a false teacher and assuming, "I can strain out the bad and take in the good," is a bit like drinking from a glass of water laced with Draino and hoping one's teeth will only let in water.Rev. Anthony Masinellinoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329600504016968888.post-67262304873233681962016-12-03T09:18:23.186-06:002016-12-03T09:18:23.186-06:00Normally, Baptists and Lutherans differ too widely...Normally, Baptists and Lutherans differ too widely in doctrines and do not host interdenominational seminars. I agree that the Salem congregation should not be hosting this event. Indeed, it is true that Baptists do not regard Baptism as Lutherans, and they certainly oppose infant Baptism. Baptists are normally dispensational in their scriptural views, and believe in a literal thousand year reign of Christ on earth, while Lutherans and Reformed faiths are amillenialists. From the Lutheran view, the thousand years revealed in scripture is a picture of the time between Christ going to the cross and the second coming, which happens at one time. We believe the seven year tribulation period is figurative, not literal, as the Bible frequently uses numbers to reflect meanings. We believe there will always be tribulation and persecution right to the end, although it will intensify in the final period. Baptists also follow " decisional regeneration' and attribute one's salvation to a choice where one "accepts" Jesus as Lord and Savior. The Bible clearly states one is elected to salvation and the "decision" to follow Jesus is expressed in the gospel of John: Jesus said, " It is the work of God that you believe on Him who He has sent." As for Beth Moore's receiving messages from God, we do receive guidance from the Holy Spirit in the prices of sanctification, and unless it is an extra-Biblical word or something incompatible with the written word of scripture, we cannot say it may not be from God. The Bible clearly states that the Spirit witnesses to our spirit. I think we should not have Baptist speakers at Lutheran conferences, but we can still share many hymns and gospel songs, and consider them brothers and sisters in Christ. John Joseph Flanaganhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06596324816480709495noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329600504016968888.post-26926521502347490522016-12-03T06:07:13.591-06:002016-12-03T06:07:13.591-06:00Is this any different than using material like Max...Is this any different than using material like Max Lucado's The Story for bible study or a sermon series?Rich Kauzlarichhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04435925743346936088noreply@blogger.com