tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329600504016968888.post7453348273566187568..comments2024-03-27T15:47:46.091-05:00Comments on Pastoral Meanderings: The Integrity of the ServicePastor Petershttp://www.blogger.com/profile/10653554256101480140noreply@blogger.comBlogger5125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329600504016968888.post-52533138261247476012010-10-24T15:13:49.052-05:002010-10-24T15:13:49.052-05:00It has been said by several writers that the litur...It has been said by several writers that the liturgy can be a comfort to the ill and dying, as they recall the words from the Divine Service. I certainly agree, but with the liturgy changing all the time [my congregation loves to mix and match], how will anyone have it memorized enough for the words to comfort them when needed? I grew up with TLH, endured LW, and am now struggling with the many variations of LSB. Perhaps I'll learn the LSB well enough to have it in my memory at the end. Unless, of course, another "new hymnal" is published before then!Janetnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329600504016968888.post-88878270278073817312010-10-23T19:43:13.091-05:002010-10-23T19:43:13.091-05:00My parish has started to use Divine Service Settin...My parish has started to use Divine Service Setting One in the past few weeks for its Traditional (Hymnal) worship service. Beforehand, they were using some mishmash of the general Divine Service liturgy, but not out of a given Setting.<br /><br />The next thing they need to work on is getting rid of thematic Corporate Confession statements tied to the sermons topics.Jesse Pennyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15598903902371142673noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329600504016968888.post-1314450265898743322010-10-23T17:17:55.779-05:002010-10-23T17:17:55.779-05:00Prior to the CPH Service Builder for
LSB, CPH had ...Prior to the CPH Service Builder for<br />LSB, CPH had a creative worship<br />disc for LW. This planted the seed<br />for parishes to cut and paste the<br />liturgy in printed bulletins. The<br />hymnals remain in pew racks. In the<br />past 3 months our parish has sung<br />"Feast of Victory" only once, while<br />most of the liturgy is omitted in<br />favor of choir anthems and instrum-<br />ental pieces. The Worship Service<br />is least than an hour with only a<br />12 minute homily. Yet the parish<br />prides itself on an exspensive pipe<br />organ and full-time cantorAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329600504016968888.post-25930396395247331342010-10-23T16:43:46.816-05:002010-10-23T16:43:46.816-05:00I agree completely. I’ve been complaining about th...I agree completely. I’ve been complaining about this liturgical abuse since that dreaded service builder was released. Before my ordination, my family attended a congregation that used the LSB liturgies every Sunday. Which one? I couldn’t tell you. They printed them out every week; mixed and matched different liturgical elements from settings 1, 2, and 4. My young children were never able to memorize the liturgy. I couldn’t help them during the week because I never knew which new setting would be created and used (or is it abused?). <br /><br />I’m sure this is hyperbole but I think the service builder will end up ruining Lutheran liturgical worship. Rare, it seems, are those congregations with service builder who actually have members holding a hymnal during the service. A church with printed orders of service may as well be a church without a hymnal. There is not doubt about it, as we've all seen it, when the liturgy goes so too does the hymnody.<br /><br />My children now sing and pray p. 15 every Sunday. They had the liturgy memorized in a few short months.Rev. Carl L. Beckwithhttp://www.hopebham.orgnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329600504016968888.post-61622718751526759042010-10-23T12:28:18.525-05:002010-10-23T12:28:18.525-05:00I will take a bit of a dissent from your wise word...I will take a bit of a dissent from your wise words, perhaps to justify my own practice.<br /><br />Let me take Divine Service Setting 4 in the LSB. Here is my current practice regarding that setting. I use the Service Builder software and:<br /><br />use Confession & Absolution from Setting 1;<br />move the Gospel and Creed to the places they are in Setting 1 & 2; insert a seasonal Eucharistic Prayer, which necessitates moving the Lord's Prayer to after the Eucharistic Prayer rather than before the Words of Institution of the LSB setting.<br /><br />I do these things to maintain some consistency in the placement of the Ordinary between Settings 1,2 & 4 that we use in our parish.<br /><br />I find that rather than disturb the integrity of the service, this maintains same.<br /><br />I understand that many use Setting 3 as their normal setting for Sunday mornings, so in that case, Setting 4 is consistent with Setting 3 in arrangement and my alterations seem, perhaps, unnecessary. But since we don't use Setting 3, it seems that my alterations of Setting 4 make sense in our setting.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com