tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329600504016968888.post8789398251570722534..comments2024-03-27T15:47:46.091-05:00Comments on Pastoral Meanderings: Remarkable good words about baptism. . .Pastor Petershttp://www.blogger.com/profile/10653554256101480140noreply@blogger.comBlogger6125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329600504016968888.post-22314258212733614122013-10-28T09:01:20.426-05:002013-10-28T09:01:20.426-05:00You know all of this about Charles how?
The same ...<i>You know all of this about Charles how?</i><br /><br />The same way you do -- reading it on the Internet.<br /><br />Of course I know some of the silly things that Charles has said, including the bit about "Defender of Faiths." <br /><br />As an aside, I would like to note that there is somethings silly about styling the English sovereigns "Defender of the Faith." The title was bestowed on Henry VIII by the Pope in recognition of Henry's writings against the Lutheran Reformation. But the Church of England now teaches, and all English monarchs now profess, Luther's doctrine of justification by faith which Henry was rewarded for opposing. Henry's successors are thus claiming a Papal title for defending a faith which the Church of England no longer teaches, and English sovereigns no longer profess. I am not sure that "Defender of Faiths" would be any weirder or less appropriate than that.<br /><br />In any case, when I read on Wikipedia and in the English press that Prince Charles is a "regular churchgoer" at Church of England parishes near his home, I conclude that he remains a faithful member of the Church of England. The fact that he evinces an interest in other faiths does not mean that he is not faithful to his own faith. And it certainly does not make him an "idiot child," which I think is a singularly uncharitable thing to say.Chris Joneshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03220498656377282715noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329600504016968888.post-81960254468202844202013-10-27T12:58:36.185-05:002013-10-27T12:58:36.185-05:00Chris, thank you for your interesting comments. Yo...Chris, thank you for your interesting comments. You know all of this about Charles how? Are you an intimate of his household, perhaps?<br /><br />All that I know about Charles is what is in the news. I know, for example, that he has publicly said that, when crowned, he wants to be the title "Defender of FaithS" rather than "Defender of THE Faith." There is nothing even faintly Anglican about that statement.<br /><br />I have no problem at all in regard to him praying with the monks on Mount Athos. I have many objections to his hobnobbing and nodding to budda, mighty mo, and the other non-Christian faith with which he is so well acquainted. I wish he were Anglicanism.<br /><br />Fr. D+<br />Anglican PriestDr.Dhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18360786634583725263noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329600504016968888.post-28694782190447851652013-10-27T09:27:01.519-05:002013-10-27T09:27:01.519-05:00Fr D,
I think you are being a bit unfair to Princ...Fr D,<br /><br />I think you are being a bit unfair to Prince Charles. It's true that he has a lively interest in religious and philosophical matters, and has explored non-Anglican and even non-Christian faiths. But having an interest -- even a sympathetic interest -- in other faiths is not the same as embracing another faith or even "leaning" that way. In terms of his actual religious practice, the Prince is a faithful communicant of the Church of England.<br /><br />The farthest Prince Charles has strayed from Anglicanism (in terms of actual religious practice) is to visit and pray with the Greek Orthodox monks of Mount Athos. In comparison to the modern Church of England, I would say that this is a step in the right direction.Chris Joneshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03220498656377282715noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329600504016968888.post-57879962235410197772013-10-26T18:49:51.427-05:002013-10-26T18:49:51.427-05:00@Unknown:
Did you see the post before this one???...@Unknown:<br /><br />Did you see the post before this one????<br /><br />Welby aside, you are mistaken about Fr. Peters. He is the last Lutheran pastor who would "overreact" to signs and symbols. <br /><br />There are certainly Lutherans who look and act more like Baptists. Our parish could not qualify. That's not to say there aren't individual members that would rather 'go Evangelical,' but on the whole, we have the Divine Service with all it's signs and symbols, right down to bells...<br /><br />It sounds as if this might have been the first post you've read on this blog. Go back and browse; I believe you will not be able to accuse Fr. Peters of this phobia.Janis Williamshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02947508427040251166noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329600504016968888.post-81281910473429185342013-10-25T11:38:53.933-05:002013-10-25T11:38:53.933-05:00As usual, ++Welby blathers on, and no one is liste...As usual, ++Welby blathers on, and no one is listening, at least no one serious about Christian faith is listening. I know little about the faith of Kate and William, which is a shame; I wish Christian faith were much more visible in them. I do know that the child's grandfather, Charles the Idiot Child, is distinctly un-Christian, with leanings toward izlam and further east. I think that the faith of this child is at great risk, and ask that all pray for him; he needs it urgently.<br /><br />Fr. D+<br />Anglican PriestDr.Dhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18360786634583725263noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329600504016968888.post-43958442377412135482013-10-25T10:02:08.668-05:002013-10-25T10:02:08.668-05:00What's wrong with his explanation of signs and...What's wrong with his explanation of signs and symbols? Those are important. Christian churches and even worship itself are filled with signs and symbols. Augustine in his De Magistro says that signs, all signs ultimately lead to God but are given to us because of our intrinsic ignorance and separation from Him. <br /><br />So, Pastor Peters, why not just dispense with the Divine Service and its symbols and just have a five minute service of you lecturing your congregation that Christ came and died for you? THe overreaction you Lutherans have to signs and symbols and rites and every other thing associated with those is so nerve racking especially since the Lutheran confessions DO NOT CONDEMN them, but only if they are used towards idolatry. SOmetimes, I wonder if Lutherans are merely baptists with some sort of common service.<br /><br />So frustrating. I'm glad I left.--ChrisUnknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08038508116670615703noreply@blogger.com