tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329600504016968888.post1250487502966442469..comments2024-03-27T15:47:46.091-05:00Comments on Pastoral Meanderings: Policy Based GovernancePastor Petershttp://www.blogger.com/profile/10653554256101480140noreply@blogger.comBlogger7125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329600504016968888.post-69748864264212128172017-02-26T17:35:00.216-06:002017-02-26T17:35:00.216-06:00It is important to properly distinguish "poli...It is important to properly distinguish "policy-based governance" from Policy Governance®. Policy Governance® is an integrated system of governance based on ten principles that are designed to be used together. Numerous hybrid governance approaches, such as "policy-based governance", either improperly apply or fail to incorporate one of more of these ten principles. Consequently, any critique of "policy-based governance" should not be construed as a critique of Policy Governance®. Paul Zilz, The Governance Coach, www.governancecoach.com.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329600504016968888.post-24385891091408231502013-06-19T17:55:48.307-05:002013-06-19T17:55:48.307-05:00Here is a link to a paper written by Ted Kober, Pr...Here is a link to a paper written by Ted Kober, President of Ambassadors of Reconciliation. He has experience with the strengths and weaknesses of Policy-based governance and recommendations for churches that have PBG. Please read it. His recommendations make a lot of sense.<br />http://www.hisaor.org/web-content/Images/PolicyBasedBoardGovernance.pdf<br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329600504016968888.post-44141579592162942732012-07-09T12:15:05.857-05:002012-07-09T12:15:05.857-05:00Pr. Beck and Janis: Interesting observations. But ...Pr. Beck and Janis: Interesting observations. But what is the model for governance if the CEO model is flawed and the old representative board model is not working?Rich Kauzlarichhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04435925743346936088noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329600504016968888.post-45369700201431055272012-07-09T10:43:08.923-05:002012-07-09T10:43:08.923-05:00Rev. Beck,
Correct. The CEO model is what most ...Rev. Beck,<br /><br /> Correct. The CEO model is what most mega churches are built upon. Unfortunately, this model has led to a bigger problem than people refusing or failing to serve on boards.<br /><br />Christ Rosebrough from Fighting For the Faith/Pirate Christian Radio (along with others) believes this leads to a form of fascism in churches.<br /><br />The CEO now becomes a furher (leader) who must go to God for individual revelation of God's 'Vision' for the particular pastor and church. As if special revelation didn't have enough problems, this affects the body also. Because the pastor has received this vision, members must get 'behind' the pastor and help him make the vision come to pass. If you disagree, you are kicked to the curb (excommunicated - this is as close as these churches come to church discipline).<br /><br />The board becomes a group of 'yes' men and women, and if there is disagreement, you get fired. Individual sheep are slaughtered if they are unruly. There is no shepherding taking place any longer.Janis Williamshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02947508427040251166noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329600504016968888.post-86512519509135107112012-07-09T08:31:46.807-05:002012-07-09T08:31:46.807-05:00The biggest implication that I found while studyin...The biggest implication that I found while studying polity and leadership models during my last year of sem was the role of pastor is shifted to executive. I'm not sure a CEO pastor is what the church needs, especially when the desired outcome rests not on the pastor's shoulders, but on the Holy Spirit. Strange times we live in.Rev. Dustin Beckhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00202862941883770974noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329600504016968888.post-62482389437042378782012-07-09T08:15:50.193-05:002012-07-09T08:15:50.193-05:00"people no longer want to sit on boards and d..."people no longer want to sit on boards and deal with the minutia and details of actually running the show."<br /><br />"Our boards and councils and committees have become passive entities. They speak in broad terms content to delegate details to others and the effect of this all is centralization of the real authority in the hands of a few."<br /><br />Most people are not leaders. They are not decisive. Putting them on a board does not make them more competent or principled. Add to that the problem of female participation. I know this will anger some, but when you let women sit in these positions, you get greater passivity, less decisiveness, more delegation, less confidence. I have seen well meaning ladies just do what they are told and not really contribute at all. They didn't even ask interesting questions. They were just lost on the board. They were sincere, etc. They just couldn't get the jobs done. Too much concern for how people would feel and too little grasp of the big picture etc.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329600504016968888.post-45303200770702676072012-07-09T06:51:27.762-05:002012-07-09T06:51:27.762-05:00Pr. Peters: But what do you do if the representati...Pr. Peters: But what do you do if the representative (i.e. board-driven) model does not work because people do not want to serve on formal boards -- or even attend voters' meetings?Rich Kauzlarichhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04435925743346936088noreply@blogger.com