tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329600504016968888.post164739352881297974..comments2024-03-27T15:47:46.091-05:00Comments on Pastoral Meanderings: What's up with Dale Meyer?Pastor Petershttp://www.blogger.com/profile/10653554256101480140noreply@blogger.comBlogger21125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329600504016968888.post-15295702441281005942017-01-20T05:51:24.422-06:002017-01-20T05:51:24.422-06:00Pastor, you may not have looked at your comments o...Pastor, you may not have looked at your comments on this thread for some time. If you receive this, you may wish to delete the porn ad which has been posted here.That Portland Guyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14138181853213605578noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329600504016968888.post-75341991347191612632015-09-05T09:19:59.731-05:002015-09-05T09:19:59.731-05:00No, this is the point:
“Whether our Synod gains f...No, this is the point:<br /><br />“Whether our Synod gains friends or makes enemies, wins honor or invites disgrace, grows or declines in numbers, brings peace or incites enmity, all this must be unimportant to us–just so our Synod may keep the jewel of purity of doctrine and knowledge. However, should our Synod ever grow indifferent toward purity of doctrine, through ingratitude forget this prize, or betray or barter it away to the false church, then let our church body perish and the name ‘Missourian’ decay in disgrace.”<br />Rev. C. F. W. Walther, 1st Synodical President<br />First Sermon Delivered at the Opening of Synod, 1 Corinthians 1:4, 5<br />Concordia Theological Quarterly, April-July, 1988,<br />p. 118-119 & footnote #46Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329600504016968888.post-17716595454926605252014-09-23T11:54:42.539-05:002014-09-23T11:54:42.539-05:00Sounds like many of you are 'missing the point...Sounds like many of you are 'missing the point', as are many of the LCMS leaders. There is the 'joke' that 'Pastors only work one day a week'. Sadly, I have seen too many pastors that have 'fallen into that life'. Sure, they attend some congregation meetings, make some hospital calls-but are not 'really out there doing the 'mission'. [Although all of us (pastors & lay people] need to be 'ministering'. There are now pastors who state 'wish to 'limit the church services to one on Sunday and one other day. They state-'if you expect me to preach another service- 'find yourself a new pastor'. Sadly these are not isolated incidents. Dr. Meyer does preach and is out and about around the country more than the majority of pastors who 'stay within their own congregation'. Dr. Meyer realizes that if the LCMS doesn't wake up-we will continue this 'death spiral' we are on and before we know it-there won't be an LCMS. You may 'think this thought is crazy-but take a look at the church membership, the LCMS congregations & schools that are closing. Sorry but alot of pastors need a 'reality check' on what is really needed of Pastors in the 21st century. Thankful that we have pastors including Pastor Meyer who realize the massive changes Pastors need to make. PABAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329600504016968888.post-29451308063683895212014-06-16T21:33:34.828-05:002014-06-16T21:33:34.828-05:00It's a nice dissertation, I have learned whats...It's a nice dissertation, I have learned <a href="http://whatsapp-download.co/" rel="nofollow">whatsapp up</a> with Dale Meyer. And thakns to this post, great info.halmanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01367987658275018889noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329600504016968888.post-14186167555790393942013-04-12T11:02:17.013-05:002013-04-12T11:02:17.013-05:00God's word is sufficient with or without the c...God's word is sufficient with or without the collar. However, I prefer my pastor to wear the uniform when he is working in the stead of Christ. <br /><br />While I disagree with some of our church leader's opinions I find it refreshing when they are willing to speak up and have their ideas reviewed by the church. That is something that seems to have been missing for a while. Perhaps a new day is dawning in Missouri where church leaders will feel less threatened and more able to dialogue with their brothers and sisters in Christ. <br /><br />DustyAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329600504016968888.post-42678286322944982032013-04-12T10:54:13.494-05:002013-04-12T10:54:13.494-05:00As clear as yours, anonymous. TWAs clear as yours, anonymous. TWTodd Wilkenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17470378774431406044noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329600504016968888.post-30433803194293786222013-04-12T10:42:57.541-05:002013-04-12T10:42:57.541-05:00Todd - sure seems like you have an issue with the ...Todd - sure seems like you have an issue with the seminary president. Glad your eye is clear.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329600504016968888.post-68772166747378420692013-04-12T00:35:52.572-05:002013-04-12T00:35:52.572-05:00Last Anonymous,
I think Dr. Meyer has already com...Last Anonymous,<br /><br />I think Dr. Meyer has already commented. His opinion of the pastors graduating from his seminary are clear. TWTodd Wilkenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17470378774431406044noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329600504016968888.post-73368951325785538172013-04-11T21:53:03.719-05:002013-04-11T21:53:03.719-05:00Imagine listening to a scathing critique of a mega...Imagine listening to a scathing critique of a mega-church author on Pirate Christian Radio and then watching your LCMS pastor promote that same author in an all-church study. Most of those "missional" devotional and reading materials contradict Lutheran doctrine. The seminary president ignores the elephant in the room - The emergent church congregations within the LCMS. Please invite Dr. Meyer to comment. Thanks.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329600504016968888.post-91327948158360744802013-04-11T16:05:40.728-05:002013-04-11T16:05:40.728-05:00Anonymous above... that statement was not directed...Anonymous above... that statement was not directed at the seminary but, if you read the blog post, was a general statement about the choice of devotional and reading materials Lutherans in general (including Pastors but not primarily so). Some of those commenting need to read what was written. Dr Meyer's writings were a trigger for this but Pr Peters has directed this toward a wider audience.Lutheran Lurkernoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329600504016968888.post-32281417023289586932013-04-11T15:04:16.504-05:002013-04-11T15:04:16.504-05:00...Lutherans have become more familiar with the la...<b>...Lutherans have become more familiar with the latest and greatest from the pens of non-denominational writers and mega-church leaders than they are with their own Confessions...</b><br /><br /><br />Is this what one of the confessional Lutheran seminaries is promoting? No wonder so many Lutherans eventually defect to non-denominational churches. You "missional" pastors are conditioning them to do so. Sad.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329600504016968888.post-70393335860031399002013-04-11T13:08:34.929-05:002013-04-11T13:08:34.929-05:00It's good that "some people" are sur...It's good that "some people" are sure they're not sinning against the 8th commandment when publicly suggesting Dr. Meyer is lying. Oops ... there I went and did it myself! Mea culpa.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329600504016968888.post-47463053137175523072013-04-11T12:28:17.591-05:002013-04-11T12:28:17.591-05:00If you are concerned about something Dr. Meyer sai...If you are concerned about something Dr. Meyer said then why not just ask him for yourself? Didn't Christ teach us that in scripture?<br />Rev. Hallnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329600504016968888.post-46013598740951863702013-04-11T12:23:29.589-05:002013-04-11T12:23:29.589-05:00Lets not blow this out of proportion. Meyer's ...Lets not blow this out of proportion. Meyer's article was not about downplaying the office of the ministry. It was about the need for pastors to be intentional about having devotional time. It seems to me Meyer's point is this: Just because you stand in for Christ does not mean you don't need to be in the Word and doing devotions and the like. While I do take issue with the <i>one</i> paragraph that complains about collars and vestments I think I can get behind the main thrust of his editorial.<br /><br /><br />I hope that after Meyer and the rest of the Concordia Faculty read the articles about Pastors in the Lord's Office—as they surely did if they were so quick to comment about it in their official journal—they realized that that issue of the Lutheran Witness agrees whole heatedly with Meyer's main point. Pastors, do your devotions, ask for and expect the forgiveness of your people when you sin. Laity love, support, and forgive your pastor.<br />Matt Woodnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329600504016968888.post-30320517835028199962013-04-11T12:15:15.678-05:002013-04-11T12:15:15.678-05:00Dr. Meyer did not address his comments to an indiv...Dr. Meyer did not address his comments to an individual. He addressed them publicly to the church in a journal and in a public devotional email. Pr Peters is not saying that Dr. Meyer sinned against him nor does he seem to be piling criticism upon him. He has asked a question -- What is up with Dr. Meyer - and from the perspective of a friend and not an enemy. Matthew 18 does not apply.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329600504016968888.post-56241686089843779752013-04-11T12:02:54.153-05:002013-04-11T12:02:54.153-05:00And there it is! I'm surprised it took as many...And there it is! I'm surprised it took as many comments as it did for someone to wag the finger to address public offense privately.Rev. Jim Roemkehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08765590533573457596noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329600504016968888.post-36682591762469689832013-04-11T11:58:54.942-05:002013-04-11T11:58:54.942-05:00Have you brought these matters up with Dr. Meyer p...Have you brought these matters up with Dr. Meyer privately? I hope this public airing of your concern doesn't represent the first he could have heard of it.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329600504016968888.post-61244917378267550082013-04-11T10:04:40.970-05:002013-04-11T10:04:40.970-05:00"many on our faculty took exception to what a..."many on our faculty took exception to what appeared to be an incomplete portrayal of the pastoral ministry"<br /><br />Is Dr Meyer putting words in the mouth of the faculty? He does not name the professors that "took exception". This is frequently a device used to bolster your opinion-some people say...experts say...when in reality you don't have experts to back up your premise, but you think it will strengthen your argument.<br />MaryAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329600504016968888.post-6224405251787428592013-04-11T09:20:55.882-05:002013-04-11T09:20:55.882-05:00Perhaps part of the problem is that Dr. Meyer has ...Perhaps part of the problem is that Dr. Meyer has been too isolated from what the ministry is really like in the trenches. Too many years behind a microphone and then more years behind a desk, rather than a pulpit and open grave can warp one's idea of what the ministry is all about.<br /><br />For too long has his job has been one of fund raising and keeping the donors happy so that pastors are now a hinderance to that work? Only he can answer that.<br /><br />JRAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329600504016968888.post-57429102525013730012013-04-11T08:56:22.606-05:002013-04-11T08:56:22.606-05:00The president of one of our seminaries repeatedly ...The president of one of our seminaries repeatedly expresses disdain for pastors. Sounds like he's in the wrong line of work. TWTodd Wilkenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17470378774431406044noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329600504016968888.post-20470380019072889222013-04-11T07:55:28.055-05:002013-04-11T07:55:28.055-05:00Brother in Christ - A friend of mine shared this a...Brother in Christ - A friend of mine shared this article with me on facebook, and while it is sad, I think you are right. God's blessings and keep writing.<br /><br />In Christ,<br />Rev. Robert Mayes<br />Beemer, NEAnonymousnoreply@blogger.com