tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329600504016968888.post2565811560864514706..comments2024-03-18T12:54:19.748-05:00Comments on Pastoral Meanderings: Could this be the reason?Pastor Petershttp://www.blogger.com/profile/10653554256101480140noreply@blogger.comBlogger14125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329600504016968888.post-75568959251662707752012-03-26T17:52:36.416-05:002012-03-26T17:52:36.416-05:00Has Chris Rosborough ever explained why he left th...Has Chris Rosborough ever explained why he left the Nazarene church for the LCMS?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329600504016968888.post-66637233205575808642012-03-25T23:23:45.306-05:002012-03-25T23:23:45.306-05:00When a Methodist leaves for the Nazarene church, h...When a Methodist leaves for the Nazarene church, he or she rejects Historical/Higher criticism. Leaving the ELCA for an ELCA-lite church accomplishes nothing. I am still waiting for the LCMC and the NALC to abandon Historical/Higher criticism.<br /><br />Although it is not loudly advertised, James Dobson, the founder of Focus on the Family, is Nazarene. His organization reflects Nazarene theology. I wish his ministry well.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329600504016968888.post-49852257881430884032012-03-25T14:26:43.616-05:002012-03-25T14:26:43.616-05:00"I understand the Nazarenes are a Pentecostal..."I understand the Nazarenes are a Pentecostal sect."<br /><br /><br />Nah, not Nazarenes. They are about what Methodists were 50 years ago.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329600504016968888.post-59717430742271489922012-03-25T13:15:03.744-05:002012-03-25T13:15:03.744-05:00The Nazarenes? I understand the Nazarenes are a P...The Nazarenes? I understand the Nazarenes are a Pentecostal sect. Well then, no drinking, dancing, or card playing for you!<br /><br />By the way, Joseph Smith was a Methodist before he had his "revelations" and started the Mormon church.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329600504016968888.post-82479292083732866972012-03-25T08:14:29.316-05:002012-03-25T08:14:29.316-05:00"where do disaffected Methodists go?"
C..."where do disaffected Methodists go?"<br /><br />Church of the NazareneAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329600504016968888.post-54564726273388487742012-03-25T08:11:42.090-05:002012-03-25T08:11:42.090-05:00I find the Methodists interesting, as there are ma...<i>I find the Methodists interesting, as there are many more of them than Lutherans. It is extremely difficult to find negative or critical press about the Methodists either in the mainstream media or in the Internet. Why is this the case.</i><br /><br />meh, why waste ammo to kill something that is committing suicide on its own? Methodists are self annihilators.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329600504016968888.post-7652067517836606182012-03-25T08:07:51.177-05:002012-03-25T08:07:51.177-05:00Lutheran pastor: Then why is it so common for an ...Lutheran pastor: Then why is it so common for an LCMS church to sponsor a congregation in the third world, while a sister congregation or preaching station in the same circuit is on life support and gets completely ignored.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329600504016968888.post-65271013841934649592012-03-25T07:10:23.737-05:002012-03-25T07:10:23.737-05:00Correction above: should have read IN church -- me...Correction above: should have read IN church -- meaning Sunday morning.Lutheran Pastornoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329600504016968888.post-4530514737134096662012-03-25T07:09:33.535-05:002012-03-25T07:09:33.535-05:00Not as long as 75% of Americans are not churched; ...Not as long as 75% of Americans are not churched; we dare not abandon our own back yards because the mission is easier or seems more fruitful somewhere else.Lutheran Pastornoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329600504016968888.post-52901103197270538242012-03-24T22:45:12.624-05:002012-03-24T22:45:12.624-05:00You hear about ELCA Lutherans leaving in droves, b...You hear about ELCA Lutherans leaving in droves, but where do disaffected Methodists go? As the Methodist headquarters owns all of the church property, only individuals church members may leave.<br /><br />Lutheran Pastor: Te future of the LCMS is in Africa and in South/Central America. Perhaps the LCMS needs to relocate offshore.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329600504016968888.post-19437363520508106242012-03-24T10:44:43.121-05:002012-03-24T10:44:43.121-05:00There are not so many more Methodists than Luthera...There are not so many more Methodists than Lutherans. In fact, probably about even now at least in the US but about 3x as many Lutherans worldwide.Lutheran Pastornoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329600504016968888.post-25090432024582207532012-03-23T17:38:47.083-05:002012-03-23T17:38:47.083-05:00I find the Methodists interesting, as there are ma...I find the Methodists interesting, as there are many more of them than Lutherans. It is extremely difficult to find negative or critical press about the Methodists either in the mainstream media or in the Internet. Why is this the case.<br /><br />The Methodists really know how to maintain a balancing act of appearing traditional while quietly endorsing the tenets of liberal Christianity. Here is one example: <br /><br />http://www.umc.org/site/c.lwL4KnN1LtH/b.1355351/k.2E2B/Our_People.htm<br /><br />Read the section titled "The People of The United Methodist Church". <br /><br />The values outlined in that section are not placed in any specific context. Think about the beliefs of the ELCA while reading them.<br /><br />http://www.umc.org/site/apps/nlnet/content3.aspx?c=lwL4KnN1LtH&b=2041977&ct=7315423Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329600504016968888.post-25772789399545997782012-03-23T08:31:37.326-05:002012-03-23T08:31:37.326-05:00To protect the environment is not our reason for e...<i>To protect the environment is not our reason for existence.</i><br /><br />In the proper context, yes it is. We are stewards in the Master's House and have been given the responsibility to care for all that He has made. Psalm 95 is a wonderful ordering of the fact that everything belongs to God and is but on loan to us. We are also seeing that environmental degradation affects the poorest populations of the word in a way that it does not those of us privileged to live in the wealthy West.<br /><br />Just as Adam was given the task of tilling the Garden we, too, are to care for God's good earth.<br /><br />Certainly we can use the resources of the earth to support human life but the dreadful extreme utilitarianism of the past couple hundred years has led many creatures to the brink of extinction.<br /><br />The Methodist statement does need to recapture the Great Commission and all that it entails but at the same time we are part of the great web of life on this planet and part of the suffering creation that awaits liberation from the effects of the Fall.<br /><br />I once saw a wonderful Lutheran artwork saying that "Creation awaits Salvation's reign." When Paul speaks of the redemption of the Cosmos it does not refer to man only.<br /><br />ChristineAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329600504016968888.post-38718629559234512512012-03-23T08:11:44.264-05:002012-03-23T08:11:44.264-05:00When you omit the "Great Commission"
fro...When you omit the "Great Commission"<br />from the church's purpose, then you<br />have short-circuited your reason for<br />existence as a church. Christ told<br />us to go and make disciples of all<br />nations, baptizing and teaching them.<br /><br />The church has 5 main purposes, <br />worship, teaching, evangelism,<br />fellowship, and service. To protect<br />the environment is not our reason<br />for existence.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com