tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329600504016968888.post2667370297061857538..comments2024-03-29T04:31:15.219-05:00Comments on Pastoral Meanderings: No. not in the Bible. . .Pastor Petershttp://www.blogger.com/profile/10653554256101480140noreply@blogger.comBlogger6125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329600504016968888.post-30634789532422379852015-02-16T10:25:57.312-06:002015-02-16T10:25:57.312-06:00@unknown: and thatparticular church is....?@unknown: and thatparticular church is....?Kirk Skepticnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329600504016968888.post-72726861209120895082015-02-15T19:54:00.848-06:002015-02-15T19:54:00.848-06:00Does not an episode like this only confirm that th...Does not an episode like this only confirm that the Bible should not be the only norm for establishing the doctrine of the Church? I certainly grant that those who do not want to hold to any authority other than their very selves will acquiesce to anything. But the whole notion that "what is in the Bible" has given rise to pretty much every major heresy. Nestorians, Arians, Apollinarians, et al. have all used the text of Scripture to justify their heresies. It was the faithful and steadfast witness if the Church which crushed these heresies, not the Bible, nor just the words of the Scriptures, but the Church. The Church is the pillar of truth. Even Scripture says that! We are never going to win the battles over heresy by quoting Biblical passages alone. The witness if the Church in what it has always taught, preached and believed should be our first and last line of defense.<br /><br />The Church of England is a schismatic church and was created by men. It has no divine authority whatsoever.Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08038508116670615703noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329600504016968888.post-41485702578180957392015-02-15T13:07:07.260-06:002015-02-15T13:07:07.260-06:00@James: my cyanide point was that any amount of L...@James: my cyanide point was that any amount of Liberalism is toxic. Your observations about the LCMess are true, although I've heard that the Sydney group has left much of the historical Anglican worship for Presby-styled "hymn sandwich;" correct me if I'm wrong.<br /><br />My thesis was that the Continuinng Anglicans are very much a mixed bag, with confusion vis-a-vis male headship as pertaining to church office and toleration of Darwinism. They ae a liturgically mixed bag as well, as a CANA congregation I'm aware of permits intinction. Like with us, things are so bad that it's not so much about denominations or movements, but rather a congregation by congregation affair.Kirk Skeptichttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06142889734004402296noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329600504016968888.post-9331633626474470642015-02-15T12:35:28.378-06:002015-02-15T12:35:28.378-06:00Kirk Skeptic: Not sure what you mean by your comme...Kirk Skeptic: Not sure what you mean by your comment "IOW how much cyanide would you like in your drink?" <br /><br />The continuing Anglican churches I mentioned have much more in common with the LCMS than just traditional male clergy. But alter fellowship is very unlikely since the continuing Anglicans don't accept the Book of Concord. Having said that, I find it ironic that many LCMS members likely don't have a clue what the BOC is. Rather, many worship like Baptists and other evangelicals. I say that with a sense of sadness - not glee. There is plenty of cyanide to go around within many traditional denominations.<br /><br />I commend the COE priest who challenged the ordination of the female bishop - regardless of other theoretical disagreements we may have.<br /><br />James Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329600504016968888.post-68249367422405151862015-02-15T09:18:44.625-06:002015-02-15T09:18:44.625-06:00@James: a n all-male clergy is small comfort in c...@James: a n all-male clergy is small comfort in churches that reject the hisotricity of Genesis, as all they say is that they prefer their modicum of Liberalism to Anglican excess thereof; IOW how much cyanide would you like in your drink?Kirk Skeptichttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06142889734004402296noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329600504016968888.post-12414812033833237262015-02-15T08:05:19.610-06:002015-02-15T08:05:19.610-06:00"While I applaud the effort of Fr. Williamson..."While I applaud the effort of Fr. Williamson, I believe that for the Church of England, and, sadly, most Anglicans, it is too late to set the anchor in the Word of God."<br /><br />Although painful to admit, I agree. But there is a remnant within the Anglican communion that strives to follow God's Word and apostolic church tradition. The continuing Anglican churches within America are such an example. The Anglican Province of America, the Anglican Church in America, and the Anglican Catholic Church are examples of this faithful remnant. They are small with plenty of problems. But they remain steadfast in opposing women's ordination and other aberrations within the church at large.<br /><br />Worldwide Anglicanism and Lutheranism are both in a pitiful shape. Only faithful remnants remain. May God protect and guard church bodies such as the LCMS and continuing Anglicans from the onslaught of worldly influence.<br /><br />James Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com