tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329600504016968888.post2869626784131505961..comments2024-03-29T04:31:15.219-05:00Comments on Pastoral Meanderings: Pesky emails. . . Pastor Petershttp://www.blogger.com/profile/10653554256101480140noreply@blogger.comBlogger4125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329600504016968888.post-37280769599806445062019-12-11T02:50:03.006-06:002019-12-11T02:50:03.006-06:00This comment has been removed by a blog administrator.Valentino thomashttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13655528106262501237noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329600504016968888.post-57304923696487362872019-12-10T11:17:40.398-06:002019-12-10T11:17:40.398-06:00And the same Lutheran describes what church is not...And the same Lutheran describes what church is not.<br /><br />“On the contrary, the ministers of the Antichrist teach that Christ has justified us once and for all through baptism, and that we have been clothed in the white robes of innocence. And if we have committed a sin after that time, they say we have lost these white robes: that we have, indeed, broken and forfeit the ship, i.e. the power and the benevolence of baptism and of Christ. Therefore, if we wish to be rescued from the wreckage, we have to grab hold of the board of penance, (and so they return us from the Gospel back under the Law), ie., that we need to be contrite enough due to the massiveness of our sin, which is impossible, that we need to have sufficient confession of all sin and circumstances - which is also impossible - and sufficient compensation, and then that Christ makes up for the sins before baptism, while we need to provide compensation ourselves for the sins committed after the baptism, which is also impossible to do through obedience to the Decalogue; instead, we owe God a different kind of obedience. Therefore, that we should be obligated to do deeds which God has not commanded...in short they are moving the Church of Christ from the Gospel and the Law to ordinances of men, such as celibacy, voluntary poverty, pilgrimages, endless repetition of prayers, whipping, fasting, and all other voluntary or willingly suffered torments and punishments of the body.<br /><br />“According to Christ’s teaching, the Devil should be fought with the sword of the Spirit, i.e. the Word of God, and the shield of faith, and according to the Antichrist’s teaching, we should fight with the sign of the Cross and blessed water.”Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329600504016968888.post-14585314181600454712019-12-10T10:51:54.576-06:002019-12-10T10:51:54.576-06:00Here’s a typical Lutheran description of why we ne...Here’s a typical Lutheran description of why we need church from 1550.<br /><br />“Pastors preach the Gospel, they proclaim the absolution of sins through Christ, and that God has so loved the world, that he incarnated His only begotten Son and gave Him over to the most disgraceful death, so that all who repent and call upon the Lord in faith, would be saved. They say that He is the only Lamb who takes away sins, and that there is truly no other name under the heavens through which people can be saved, and furthermore, that He is the only way, truth, and life; the only bread who has come down from heaven; that all sinners who are hungry for God’s righteousness should come to Him, the shepherd and giver of life; that all who are tired and burdened should come to Him, as well as those who are thirsty, but have no money, for He will let them drink; that He is, following the suffering and resurrection, the only intercessor between God and man; that He is the only one speaking for miserable sinners, and mediator, and that only through Him we can and must, in our misery, confidently come before the throne of divine Majesty. And whatever we ask in His name in faith, we will surely attain it. Furthermore, Christ is the only head of the Church, who rules it and defends it from the Devil and the World, and that He will ultimately lead it into eternal bliss.”Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329600504016968888.post-8776875107466698862019-12-10T09:01:49.933-06:002019-12-10T09:01:49.933-06:00May I offer a thought? Part of the penchant for d...May I offer a thought? Part of the penchant for disciples-not-attenders is related to the push for diversity in today’s society. If Christians would get off their derrieres and be disciples, the church would grow, and be attractional. However, diversity ends up meaning someone’s small group (homogenous faith community) is accepting of others. The group makes a point of being diverse, but if we take several steps back, everyone begins to look alike. <br /><br />Not so the Church. We are not a small group. We are not homogenous. We truly are diverse. Real diversity requires tolerance, not tolerationism. The Church militant (those alive today) must live together as a culture. We are a VERY large family. that means we sometimes fight. We can be insulting, and downright mean to one another. We remain a family even if we don’t speak to one another, and Jesus forgives our sins..<br /><br />This desire for disciples instead of attendees is a mere subterfuge to collect a community of kindred spirits focused on accomplishing the same goals (not usually the ones we are commissioned in the Gospel...) rather than reaching people from every kindred, tribe, and nation.<br /><br />Truly, the Church can look boring from the outside, and BE boring from the inside. But is it because we aren’t following the correct agenda, or because we aren’t following our Lord’s mandate?Janis Williamshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02947508427040251166noreply@blogger.com