tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329600504016968888.post3671073468207189973..comments2024-03-27T15:47:46.091-05:00Comments on Pastoral Meanderings: Subtraction and addition. . .Pastor Petershttp://www.blogger.com/profile/10653554256101480140noreply@blogger.comBlogger12125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329600504016968888.post-51144050299322739912017-10-17T05:22:30.418-05:002017-10-17T05:22:30.418-05:00Thanks for sharing, nice post!
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In order to accommodate, our normal liturgical procedure things were changed to (i’m assuming this) match the liturgical pieces and parts to which he was accustomed. This was generous in IMHO. It made for comfort on the guest pastor’s part, but the congregation was a little adrift. Please do not hear that as complaint - it was just not the liturgical pieces to which we were accustomed. The sermon was an excellent Law & Gospel presentation. <br /><br />So C.S. Lewis is correct in his evaluation of the liturgical service. When one is not sure what is coming next, they’re thinking, “what’s this guy going to do next?” When there is Liturgy, there is the ability to concentrate on the Divine Service, rather than the pastor. To be distracted by a chausable seems very minor compared to being so distracted by the man in the pulpit doing something strange one can’t concentrate on Word and Sacrament.<br /><br />I also find it ingteresting that I don’t hear people complaining of distraction by an alb or stole. Fascinating that there is not much said about the “distraction” of praise songs. Instead the issue from this side is the reverence, and most importantly the absence of (horrors) doctrine.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329600504016968888.post-59601467430939664412017-10-15T10:50:59.385-05:002017-10-15T10:50:59.385-05:00"When we cannot recover the ceremonial, we ha..."When we cannot recover the ceremonial, we have already surrendered the faith it signed and demonstrated." Oct. 4, 2017<br /><br />Also, the evangelical mass (1526) was not the same as the medieval Roman mass.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329600504016968888.post-1771619098527874852017-10-14T21:31:59.576-05:002017-10-14T21:31:59.576-05:00 If I could excise one word from the Lutheran lexi... If I could excise one word from the Lutheran lexicon it would be “adiophora”. The word is used by contemporary worship advocates to justify the removal of almost everything we understand as the Mass referenced in the Confessons. It has become a word that can mean whatever we want it to mean....which leads to the situation we are in todayPadre Dave Poedelhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14033503960196272783noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329600504016968888.post-82206894390164936312017-10-14T20:54:48.025-05:002017-10-14T20:54:48.025-05:00The drumbeat of this blog is to show that the many...The drumbeat of this blog is to show that the many who presume that rich ceremonial is Roman are completely out of touch with what is Lutheran. Pastor Peter's is right. We live a caricature of Lutheranism today and get our feathers ruffled by things Luther and those with him would have found completely normal. And for that matter Luther and those with him would have found what passes for Lutheran shocking and revolting. Pastor Peter's point is that those who condemn a shasuble or sing the liturgy or bow or whatever are not outside Lutheranism but even more Lutheran than those who don't like them.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329600504016968888.post-38705870064701939242017-10-14T20:53:49.479-05:002017-10-14T20:53:49.479-05:00This comment has been removed by the author.Pastor Petershttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10653554256101480140noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329600504016968888.post-64555476082145292502017-10-13T14:25:06.264-05:002017-10-13T14:25:06.264-05:00It was not I that sought to engage on a blog that ...It was not I that sought to engage on a blog that supports the opposition’s viewpoint, a viewpoint opposed to keeping pure doctrine and practice. It was not I that went out of my way to find those whose hermeneutics invite higher criticism of Scripture or denigration of the Conservative Reformation. I didn’t force anyone to go against his conscience and I understand fully there are those who don’t appreciate ancient church liturgy that is derived from Scripture, not merely devised by men. The opposition’s viewpoint deserves rebuke and zero tolerance within the (real) Lutheran Church. The Reformation is settled science in my view and those in opposition should be contained and relegated to American Christianity where CoWo can run its course and where it cannot molest the few who are left who take comfort in the orthodox, confessional, liturgical church. Our differences begin with the fact that I find nothing amusing about the direction in which many LCMS churches are drifting.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329600504016968888.post-51503222410690471812017-10-13T13:24:01.500-05:002017-10-13T13:24:01.500-05:00On the contrary, the amusing thing about this webs...On the contrary, the amusing thing about this website is its constant uncompromising drumbeat equating only high ceremonial with true faith, without a Lutheran theological leg to stand on.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329600504016968888.post-65935357516063363962017-10-13T08:16:09.666-05:002017-10-13T08:16:09.666-05:00All those who like Friday casual worship services ...All those who like Friday casual worship services and prefer fewer or no “ancient” church rites and ceremonies, BY ALL MEANS, go find a church that accommodates your proclivities. Lord knows there are plenty of them around. But do me a favor and allow the peculiar people of confessional Lutheranism to cling to the Liturgy of the Divine Service that even Saint John Chrysostom would recognize. You cowo proponents are like vegetarians or vegans. It’s not enough to be one but you must insist that no one is allowed to eat meat and actively campaign against those who do.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329600504016968888.post-33588639742377515712017-10-12T19:18:41.955-05:002017-10-12T19:18:41.955-05:00To each their own, I guess. Our pastor wears a ch...To each their own, I guess. Our pastor wears a chasuble on Sunday mornings, Wednesday evenings and often for Matins on Monday mornings. I don't find it distracting, whatsoever. Our liturgical services have ruined me, though, for more casual services that I infrequently attend when out of town. That's where I find distraction.Markenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329600504016968888.post-43304642103754067242017-10-12T12:48:25.493-05:002017-10-12T12:48:25.493-05:00When such people get distracted by a chasuble and ...When such people get distracted by a chasuble and give unneeded attention to the pastor, they should repent.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329600504016968888.post-13195406850536839882017-10-12T09:20:57.491-05:002017-10-12T09:20:57.491-05:00I know it, you know it, and Lutherans know it:
Sp...I know it, you know it, and Lutherans know it:<br /><br />Special Vestments for the Eucharist are adiaphoria.<br />A chasuble can be a distraction and draw unneeded<br />attention to the pastor.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com