tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329600504016968888.post3862622154627415306..comments2024-03-29T04:31:15.219-05:00Comments on Pastoral Meanderings: Modern Art. . . Pastor Petershttp://www.blogger.com/profile/10653554256101480140noreply@blogger.comBlogger5125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329600504016968888.post-57514219042708048312017-07-28T18:42:58.809-05:002017-07-28T18:42:58.809-05:00Whatever you say about the steel-worker-built croz...Whatever you say about the steel-worker-built crozier, it's better than the one that got raked over the coals in the September 28, 2014, <i>Novus Ordo Watch</i> article, "<a href="http://novusordowatch.org/2014/09/bergoglios-dental-crozier/" rel="nofollow">That Seventies “Pope”: Bergoglio’s New Pastoral Staff Ugly as Hell</a>":<br /><br />"Dentists and hygienists around the globe must be envious: The <a href="http://novusordowatch.org/wp-content/uploads/francis-new-ferula.jpeg" rel="nofollow">world’s largest dental explorer</a> was carried in procession by the Jesuit Jorge Bergoglio, 'Pope' Francis, on Saturday, September 27, 2014, as he celebrated the 200th anniversary of Pope Pius VII’s re-establishment of the Jesuit order. The hideous crozier Francis carried really did resemble an oversized toothpick or a dental sickle probe more than a Pope’s pastoral staff and so made one wonder if Pope Clement XIV didn’t perhaps have a vision of our times when he decided to suppress and abolish the Society of Jesus in 1773."Carl Vehsehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00348831096001668813noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329600504016968888.post-85556380083170095182017-07-28T17:17:28.387-05:002017-07-28T17:17:28.387-05:00I happy to like the new crosier... and if it is a ...I happy to like the new crosier... and if it is a crosier rather than a processional cross or crucifix... perhaps even more reason why might not see a corpus ... I tend to like crucifixes more than simple crosses in the main but this one has some interest to me as a modern depiction... and indeed as I sometimes am loath to admit... the cross also says a great deal even as the crucifix certainly does... I am not sure if someone dislikes the present pontiff, his crosier ought automatically to symbolize or capture the essence of one's reason for dislike... <br />Pastor Harvey S. Mozolakhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18343181299520104917noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329600504016968888.post-90910429775017674872017-07-28T10:59:16.884-05:002017-07-28T10:59:16.884-05:00Actually, this is highly appropriate for this pope...Actually, this is highly appropriate for this pope who is "new, modern, strange, and unintelligible."<br /><br />Fr. D+Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329600504016968888.post-58879449033092393192017-07-28T10:29:04.084-05:002017-07-28T10:29:04.084-05:00There's more to the story, as provided in a Ju...There's more to the story, as provided in a June 26, 2017, <a href="http://www.gruppoilva.com/en/stories/2017-06-26/pope-francis-corpus-domini-crozier-made-ilvas-employees" rel="nofollow">ILVA article</a>:<br /><br />"At the Corpus Domini service on 18 June the Holy Father used the crozier that ILVA employees gave him when he visited the Cornigliano facility.<br /><br />"The crozier made by employees at Genova Cornigliano [an Italian specialized steel manufacturing plant] and donated to the Holy Father when he visited the facility on 27 May has appeared in an event broadcast worldwide. On Sunday 18 June in fact, Pope Francis went to the Corpus Domini celebration in the Basilica di San Giovanni in Laterano with 'our' crozier.<br /><br />"1.70 m long and weighing around 3.5 kg [7.7 lbs], the crozier is made of stainless steel recycled from old spare parts. To make this precious tribute – which <a href="http://www.gruppoilva.com/sites/ilvacorp/files/multimedia_text/ilva-immagine.jpg" rel="nofollow">packs away into an overnight bag</a> - our colleagues at Genova Cornigliano worked with passionate devotion for around a month. The form of the cross, with the <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tau_Cross" rel="nofollow">Tau symbol</a>, was produced by a pantograph and a high precision plasma cutting process, while the body of the staff was fashioned on a lathe in the workshops."<br /><br />In any case, for Lutherans, a crozier is more of a symbol of an episcopal (if not sacerdotal) view of the office of the ministry.Carl Vehsehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00348831096001668813noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329600504016968888.post-64979563299955212482017-07-28T09:16:03.870-05:002017-07-28T09:16:03.870-05:00I wonder if it doesn't come down to who gets t...I wonder if it doesn't come down to who gets to define what it means. You said the purpose of Church art was to give a visual image of the faith. If we redefine the faith then the visual image reflects that redefinition. It is no longer about God's definition but our definition. It is no longer about what God has said but what we think. Just more of us playing at being god. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com