tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329600504016968888.post4019485847497841021..comments2024-03-29T04:31:15.219-05:00Comments on Pastoral Meanderings: Here is kept the ancient promise...Pastor Petershttp://www.blogger.com/profile/10653554256101480140noreply@blogger.comBlogger6125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329600504016968888.post-9723798450547528702011-11-18T13:05:58.081-06:002011-11-18T13:05:58.081-06:00I didn't bring up the Catholic practices eithe...I didn't bring up the Catholic practices either, Whoever You Are, I commented re taking something intended for them and making it Lutheran. The disagreements among Lutherans re the Presence after are not at issue in the perversions that developed in the RCC about the Presence after. And if Christ thought "after" was of any consequence whatsoever he'd have said something about it, but he didn't. Take and eat. Period. Not take and eat and here's how to clean up, not take and eat and theologise yourself a bunch of stuff to do to feel all Eucharistic, etc.Terry Maherhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17122266461403246084noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329600504016968888.post-77420301203007560452011-11-18T12:49:08.175-06:002011-11-18T12:49:08.175-06:00Your rants have nothing to do with the point that ...Your rants have nothing to do with the point that Lutherans cannot agree on when, how, how long the Presence remains and that is exactly why in some congregations "consecrated" hosts get tossed back into the jar. Either they are the Body of Christ or they aren't.<br /><br />It wasn't me that brought up Catholic practices.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329600504016968888.post-53914012062197638342011-11-18T11:50:24.057-06:002011-11-18T11:50:24.057-06:00Well I'l be double dag dog dipped. Whoda thun...Well I'l be double dag dog dipped. Whoda thunk that an objection to taking a half-fast translation of an RC hymn for Eucharistic Adoration as a model for Lutheran Communion reverence would inspire a You might be a receptionist if .... One generally finds such flights of illogic in the RCC, not among us.<br /><br />Even so, not one nor all to-gether would the aspects of Receptionism offend Our Lord nearly so much as behaving as if he said Take, Don't Eat, Put In A Display Case And Adore, or, Take, Don't Eat, Put On Funny Clothes And Parade Around Town With It.<br /><br />And if first and third Sunday Communion retards this kind of false piety, which actually belongs in a monstrance for the monstrosity it is, I'm all for it.Terry Maherhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17122266461403246084noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329600504016968888.post-72750242407142343232011-11-18T10:23:32.785-06:002011-11-18T10:23:32.785-06:00Yeah, us Lutherans are so much better off :)
You ...Yeah, us Lutherans are so much better off :)<br /><br />You Might be a Receptionist if… <br /><br />You argue for disposable individual cups.<br /><br />You believe the Nihil Rule includes the words “plane of the teeth”.<br /><br />You don’t know what is in the celebrant’s hands after the consecration, but you do know that whatever it is, it does not REPRESENT Jesus’ Body and Blood.<br /><br />Your feverish arguing against the “moment of consecration” leads you to invent a “moment of consecration” (i.e. plane of the teeth).<br /><br />Your feverish arguing against the “moment of consecration” leads you to invent a “moment of deconsecration” (i.e. last distribution hymn, benediction, end of your esophagus)<br /><br />You throw consecrated elements back into a container of non-consecrated elements and get snippy with a nervous altar guild member who questions you about this practice.<br /><br />You practice your 3-point shooting every 1st and 3rd Sunday with your disposable individual cup and the provided plastic lined garbage can.<br /><br />You are in favor of de facto private masses for shut-ins rather than allowing the pastor to carry the reliquae to those members of the congregation who are unable due to illness or injury to attend the Divine Service, IOW those who are receptionists and claim that after some point in the service, the Body and Blood are no longer present and one MUST ALWAYS consecrate new bread and wine for a shut-in.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329600504016968888.post-44575142925058604342011-11-18T08:45:46.595-06:002011-11-18T08:45:46.595-06:00This "translation" is so utterly periphr...This "translation" is so utterly periphrastic as to be inadmissible. I don't spend much time on Catholic stuff these days -- except when I come here -- so thank you Anonymous, whichever of the many you are, for the bio. Anyone who could pass this off as the Tantum Ergo richly earned a place on the ICEL, whose miserable "translation" of the novus ordo English speaking Catholics will jettison in a couple of weeks.<br /><br />The Tantum Ergo per se is sung at Exposition of the Blessed Sacrament. The gushy words are piety gone mad, as what He said to take and eat and drink Man corrupts into veneration of what he said to take and eat and drink rather than taking and eating and drinking it. Have done it hundreds of times myself. Can still do it from memory decades later, should I be bound and carried into one of those blasphemous perversions of what the Sacrament of the Altar even is, let alone applicable to us.Terry Maherhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17122266461403246084noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329600504016968888.post-20557452707275591052011-11-18T07:53:52.020-06:002011-11-18T07:53:52.020-06:00A member of the Scottish Religious Advisory Commit...A member of the Scottish Religious Advisory Committee of the BBC (1973-1976) and a participant in various ecumenical dialogues for the British Council of Churches, Fr Quinn also served as a consultant to the International Commission on English in the Liturgy (1972-1976). Between 1976 and 1980 he was spiritual director at the Beda College in Rome. From 1980, Fr Quinn served as Secretary on the Scottish Commission for Christian Unity, being appointed seven years later as Episcopal Vicar for Ecumenism in the Archdiocese of Edinburgh.<br /><br />In 1998, the Journal of the Association of Anglican Musicians praised “Fr Quinn's ability to articulate the orthodox aspects of Christianity in new and fresh ways”, commenting particularly on his texts “with Celtic influence”. Describing him as “one of the finest writers of hymn texts of our time”, his publisher, Selah, said the words of his hymns “help us better understand the mystery and presence of God in our world today.” Many were paraphrases of the psalms and other parts of scripture, as well as hymns for the Liturgy of the Hours and translations of such Marian prayers as the Salve Regina.<br /><br />Fr James Quinn SJ died on 8 April 2010 at St Joseph’s House in Edinburgh, where he had spent the past ten years. These years were marked by a gentle acceptance of the changes brought by age and illness, and though he stopped writing hymns he took to writing jokes – and sharing them with all who came to visit him! He remained intensely interested in developments in Church life and liturgy and subscribed to many journals that kept him informed and updated. His hymns are still being reprinted and republished, and remain a great resource for the Church, reflecting the importance of his theological and ecumenical work in Scotland and beyond.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com