tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329600504016968888.post4275951906038149699..comments2024-03-29T04:31:15.219-05:00Comments on Pastoral Meanderings: The Mass According to Jimmy FallonPastor Petershttp://www.blogger.com/profile/10653554256101480140noreply@blogger.comBlogger7125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329600504016968888.post-61313429177837983272011-11-18T13:53:35.821-06:002011-11-18T13:53:35.821-06:00Chris wrote: "But for every Jimmy Fallon (or...Chris wrote: "But for every Jimmy Fallon (or his Lutheran equivalent) who longs for the reverence and richness of the traditional liturgy, there are ten or twenty or a hundred who are bored or alienated by the liturgy and who prefer the entertainment offered by so-called "contemporary" services."<br /><br />But Chris, don't you think the pendulum is starting to swing in the other direction (towards the liturgy). Increasing numbers of disaffected Evangelicals will see through the thin veneer of entertainment posing as "worship" and yearn for some real theological meat. We still have to wait for the Church Growth Movement to run its course. It is showing some signs of cracking:<br /><br />http://www.fightingforthefaith.com/<br /><br />http://www.piratechristianradio.com<br /><br />http://www.worldvieweverlasting.com/<br /><br />People are starting to wake up. The LCMS is always the last denomination to imitate or abandon fads within the Church. Give it time.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329600504016968888.post-36898800313845122732011-11-18T06:20:48.163-06:002011-11-18T06:20:48.163-06:00My experience is I have been to a number of 'm...My experience is I have been to a number of 'mixed' services in the surrounding LCMS churches that I and I have noticed the people around me seem to get the religious experience they need. Whether it is inward repentence and receiving God's word only they and God know. I am not happy with the "anthems" sung solo at my congregation -- too me-oriented and pietistic. The pastors do an excellent job of preaching and outreach. I have tried more confessional churches in the area, but the sermons from a few of the pastors seemed more like lectures than sermons. I like the different settings of the Divine Service. I don't think anyone is totally satisfied with what they experience at their congregations.Ted Badjehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03220879004715648795noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329600504016968888.post-77102066683464430462011-11-17T13:22:59.787-06:002011-11-17T13:22:59.787-06:00The ministry of the prophet Jeremiah
to the Kingdo...The ministry of the prophet Jeremiah<br />to the Kingdom of Judah reminded them<br />of the need for true repentance from<br />Baal worship. It is also a reminder<br />for us and Jimmy Fallon. To attend<br />Mass or Worship involves repentance.<br />It must ultimately be repentance in<br />deed not just word.<br /><br />True repentance is based on a radical<br />change in personal behavior, not just<br />a recitation of a liturgical formula.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329600504016968888.post-22499895314246119102011-11-17T11:14:01.875-06:002011-11-17T11:14:01.875-06:00Could this have implications for Lutherans as well...<i>Could this have implications for Lutherans as well?</i><br /><br />Well, sure it could. But for every Jimmy Fallon (or his Lutheran equivalent) who longs for the reverence and richness of the traditional liturgy, there are ten or twenty or a hundred who are bored or alienated by the liturgy and who prefer the entertainment offered by so-called "contemporary" services.<br /><br />The issue isn't one of style or aesthetics, it is whether or not what the Church does in worship communicates the Gospel and serves as a means of grace. The liturgy that the Church has received by tradition does that; with "contemporary" services devised according to the taste of this age and of this world, it's hard to be sure.Chris Joneshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03220498656377282715noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329600504016968888.post-36961331942505896772011-11-17T10:34:24.406-06:002011-11-17T10:34:24.406-06:00I suspect that the still highly ethnic nature of O...I suspect that the still highly ethnic nature of Orthodoxy is a problem. Most Catholic parishes, at least in the suburbs, are very blended as far as nationalities go, giving them a more "universal" feel.<br /><br />Also, the papacy is a stumbling block to the Orthodox but the sign of unity for Catholics.<br /><br />There have been conversions both ways.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329600504016968888.post-75035246410706546692011-11-17T10:28:33.861-06:002011-11-17T10:28:33.861-06:00Why do (most) disaffected Catholics never consider...Why do (most) disaffected Catholics never consider the (almost the same as Roman Catholic) Eastern Orthodox church?<br /><br />It sounds like Fallon cannot find a traditional Roman Catholic congregation within driving distance. Sad. If he really wants to attend a traditional church service, he may be forced to convert to Eastern Orthodox or maybe........LCMS.<br /><br />In 20 years, will traditional church services exist at any denomination, anywhere?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329600504016968888.post-77577738712203850072011-11-17T08:03:36.832-06:002011-11-17T08:03:36.832-06:00As someone born in 1968, and as someone who is a f...As someone born in 1968, and as someone who is a first generation Lutheran who remembers his baptism at age 11, I often have to contend with people who assume that I prefer "hip", "non-traditional" Lutheranism - whatever that means. The truth is, my family came to the church because one of my Dad's friends invited us and were blessed with a pastor who loved us and acted like a pastor and not a cruise director. LBW, setting 1 every Sunday, Holy Communion every Sunday, pastor in vestments, acolytes in those long cassocks even in the summer in the desert. Not hip at all. Still, somehow, two pastors and one AIM came from my generation in that congregation. Who woulda thunk it?Leehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13013921386098199810noreply@blogger.com