tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329600504016968888.post5256635380555608391..comments2024-03-27T15:47:46.091-05:00Comments on Pastoral Meanderings: Who speaks for the Church?Pastor Petershttp://www.blogger.com/profile/10653554256101480140noreply@blogger.comBlogger3125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329600504016968888.post-39615595747876402872015-06-02T15:28:48.432-05:002015-06-02T15:28:48.432-05:00We don't really care who is saying it, if what...<i>We don't really care who is saying it, if what they say is right."</i><br /><br />Which converts the question to: "Who says who speaks for the church is right?"Carl Vehsehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00348831096001668813noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329600504016968888.post-29282710935269206672015-06-02T14:42:39.873-05:002015-06-02T14:42:39.873-05:00And then, after cycling through all the possible p...And then, after cycling through all the possible permutations of jurisdiction, we return to the problem that what is being said is wrong and disturbing the whole church. We don't really care who is saying it, if what they say is right. JoanneAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329600504016968888.post-43286477781497138482015-06-02T08:32:39.657-05:002015-06-02T08:32:39.657-05:00Who speaks for the Church?
From the cover of his ...<i>Who speaks for the Church?</i><br /><br />From the <a href="http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/51Jv0cDw%2BEL._SX258_BO1,204,203,200_.jpg" rel="nofollow">cover of his 1967 book</a>, it would appear to be Paul Ramsey.<br /><br />From the viewpoint of Romanists and some Tiberwaders, it's the pope.<br /><br />In its 1995 <a href="http://www.lcms.org/Document.fdoc?src=lcm&id=360" rel="nofollow"><i>Render Unto Caesar... and Unto God</i></a> (p. 65), the LCMS CTCR states: <br /><br />"'Who speaks for the church?' surfaces the fundamental ambiguity in the term 'church.' It makes a great deal of difference, for instance, whether the term church is used to refer to the universal, spiritual body of God’s people; a national or international church body; a congregation; or individual Christians generally. It also makes a difference whether one is referring to distinctively spiritual and ecclesiastical functions or to an institution that operates under secular law as property holder, employer, deliverer and purchaser of services, or investor."<br /><br />In its Epilog (pp. 91-2), the CTCR provides nuanced answers to the question.Carl Vehsehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00348831096001668813noreply@blogger.com