tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329600504016968888.post5329502831028720962..comments2024-03-27T15:47:46.091-05:00Comments on Pastoral Meanderings: Defrocked for faithfulnessPastor Petershttp://www.blogger.com/profile/10653554256101480140noreply@blogger.comBlogger5125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329600504016968888.post-72819324105421406482015-05-05T19:00:35.158-05:002015-05-05T19:00:35.158-05:00"What if the LCMS defrocked a pastor who was ...<i>"What if the LCMS defrocked a pastor who was preaching against beliefs such as the Resurrection and the Incarnation, etc. and he was still his serving his congregation?"</i><br /><br />The LCMS cannot defrock (depose) a pastor. Only the congregation that called him can do that (for cause!). The LCMS, through its ecclesiastical supervision (back when it was taken seriously), can remove a pastor (for cause!) from the membership roster. The congregation would then have to depose the pastor, or face being removed from synodical membership itself.<br /><br />Nowadays, of course, it's like a free-for-all in the Missouri Synod.Carl Vehsehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00348831096001668813noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329600504016968888.post-4177554034430421092015-05-05T16:20:30.432-05:002015-05-05T16:20:30.432-05:00How can they continue to minister if the church ha...How can they continue to minister if the church has defrocked them? Yes, we know they may be right, but what of the converse? What if the LCMS defrocked a pastor who was preaching against beliefs such as the Resurrection and the Incarnation, etc. and he was still his serving his congregation? I know you'd want him removed, but, in his eyes, his own perspective, he will still say that he has a ministry to perform.Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08038508116670615703noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329600504016968888.post-72431863183447985812015-05-05T15:49:01.792-05:002015-05-05T15:49:01.792-05:00Such moments are opportunities for witness, are th...Such moments are opportunities for witness, are they not? So Pastor Simojoki is giving witness to those who have forsaken the Biblical truth for another authority and another Gospel. That is faithfulness as well.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329600504016968888.post-36316911810303357712015-05-05T12:25:54.609-05:002015-05-05T12:25:54.609-05:00I look at this issue differently. Life can be unfa...I look at this issue differently. Life can be unfair, both inside and outside of the church. Charles Spurgeon, a Calvinistic Baptist preacher in England, was asked to leave so many churches that it is a wonder he remained a pastor at all. Church politics, as well as secularization and the introduction of carnal values and false doctrines, has resulted in the removal of preachers of the word across all denominations. We should consider such matters as part of the Christian life, because sin infects all things. The pastor ousted for being faithful in the face of unbiblical ideas advanced in his church, or due to internal politics, is never alone....there has been a long line going back to the Apostolic days. The faithful minister should just move on to another church....because his duty is to preach the word, and if no church wants him, find another occupation while remaining a faithful member of a solid church...where his gifts will be appreciated.John Joseph Flanaganhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06596324816480709495noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329600504016968888.post-12429713714400524392015-05-05T07:33:22.833-05:002015-05-05T07:33:22.833-05:00To a man of faith the Rev. Dr. Anssi Simojokiand l...To a man of faith the Rev. Dr. Anssi Simojokiand living up to the call and letter of his ordination please continue serving the people as the good shepherd you are. Do not let these political mongers of the Cathedral Chapter rob you "they are not worthy enemies" and need your prayers.ErnestOhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13077415409728022160noreply@blogger.com