tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329600504016968888.post55209658417117828..comments2024-03-27T15:47:46.091-05:00Comments on Pastoral Meanderings: God writes poetry and not prose. . .Pastor Petershttp://www.blogger.com/profile/10653554256101480140noreply@blogger.comBlogger9125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329600504016968888.post-47911432299604985502016-02-05T18:32:01.708-06:002016-02-05T18:32:01.708-06:00I think the poetry and prose views can be reconcil...I think the poetry and prose views can be reconciled. In fact, I think that for the "poetics" of biblical history to work, we have to be grounded in the "prose." An example: the Gospels record that two angels stood at the tomb of Christ. This literally happened. In that respect it is "prose." However, we can also say that the two angels are the cherubim of the new creation, and that they are facing Christ, who is the new Ark of the Covenant. This would correspond to a more "poetic" view of history and the Scriptures. Both are true, and they are not in conflict with one another. The "poetic" nature of the biblical narratives depend upon their actually having occurred, but the repetitions, recapitulations, tensions and resolutions of themes, all contribute to our wonder at God's providential, poetic ordering of history and the Scripture's composition.Aidan Clevingerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14417690560939571876noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329600504016968888.post-56143324086680631362016-02-05T14:36:06.210-06:002016-02-05T14:36:06.210-06:00That is also the claim and m.o. of pagan religion,...That is also the claim and m.o. of pagan religion, hence its reflection in Orthodoxy and Roman Catholicism. Lnear thinking does characterize the OT view of history, starting from creation and ending at the eschaton without age-ending cataclysms. The Hebrew in Genesis 1-11 is definitely prosaic; only someone looking to dodge the doctrine of creation and its ramifications would think otherwise.Kirk Skeptichttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06142889734004402296noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329600504016968888.post-39690151309647139582016-02-04T19:27:30.851-06:002016-02-04T19:27:30.851-06:00Quote: Once again, I think you are missing the po...Quote: Once again, I think you are missing the point: The Western mind thinks in linear terms, and breaks down prose vs poetry, it's an all or none, logical way of thinking. <br /><br />When a writer uses a term like mythistory there is an immediate problem. Of course, there are differences in the way people view history (separated by 20 centuries) but these differences do not at all imply that whether or not something actually happened is irrelevant to the event or its interpretation.<br /><br />Yes, I know that the West has a more "linear" view of time and history but that does not mean that the early church or Biblical times or Eastern perspectives deem the actually historicity of something irrelevant to its meaning. That is exactly the claim of liberal Christianity -- it does not matter if it happened (like the Resurrection of Jesus) because the spiritual meaning and import is the same whether or not it actually happened. Of course this is a fallacy and the end result is a religion of morality alone without anything to say to sin or its death.Pastor Petershttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10653554256101480140noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329600504016968888.post-81800061671175354072016-02-04T19:21:16.621-06:002016-02-04T19:21:16.621-06:00Joseph... follow the link. Fr. Stephen FreemanJoseph... follow the link. Fr. Stephen FreemanAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329600504016968888.post-48800414163621207602016-02-04T07:39:04.883-06:002016-02-04T07:39:04.883-06:00Who is the Orthodox writer quoted in this article?...Who is the Orthodox writer quoted in this article?Josephnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329600504016968888.post-90602688238834926732016-02-03T20:36:36.470-06:002016-02-03T20:36:36.470-06:00God is a mathematician, which is how He orders the...God is a mathematician, which is how He orders the universe. He does poetry on the side...Recovering Lutheranhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14681139117745192567noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329600504016968888.post-39100402743226406592016-02-03T15:16:28.632-06:002016-02-03T15:16:28.632-06:00Once again, I think you are missing the point: Th...Once again, I think you are missing the point: The Western mind thinks in linear terms, and breaks down prose vs poetry, it's an all or none, logical way of thinking. For those of us who have learned the discipline of thinking with more of an Eastern mind (I say "more of" because I, too, was trained in Western thinking, especially in my medical training and teaching, but I have deliberately worked to discipline my mind to think in a more "global" way) there is no need to reconcile seeming idiosyncrasies in texts, to "line up" seeming discrepancies between different accounts of stories in the Bible. <br /><br />It's not a matter of historical-critical or grammatical critical, it is simply just accepting of the text as the inspired and inerrant text, by faith. To think this way is to believe that God has given the Scripture to the CHURCH, not to the academy. The academy has no business trying to interpret OUR Book!Padre Dave Poedelhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14033503960196272783noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329600504016968888.post-9668547664165973702016-02-03T07:46:45.563-06:002016-02-03T07:46:45.563-06:00Who is the Orthodox writer?Who is the Orthodox writer?Josephnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329600504016968888.post-35211001894726163832016-02-03T06:26:59.157-06:002016-02-03T06:26:59.157-06:00Both the papists and "Orthodox (ie, papists w...Both the papists and "Orthodox (ie, papists with beards)" have swallowed higher criticism hook, line, & sinker - all this while claiming to be guided by some "apostolic tradition." Anyone with any familiarity with these two false churches will view this article as SOSDD.Kirk Skeptichttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06142889734004402296noreply@blogger.com