tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329600504016968888.post5646392953608771135..comments2024-03-27T15:47:46.091-05:00Comments on Pastoral Meanderings: The Buzz About the HandPastor Petershttp://www.blogger.com/profile/10653554256101480140noreply@blogger.comBlogger8125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329600504016968888.post-84640149757889741922011-01-08T01:42:05.491-06:002011-01-08T01:42:05.491-06:00I had ann Aunt Bertha.
I also had an Aunt Conco...I had ann Aunt Bertha. <br /><br />I also had an Aunt Concordia.Timothy C. Schenkshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11770741345144496175noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329600504016968888.post-82579646265371948292011-01-03T17:51:11.953-06:002011-01-03T17:51:11.953-06:00While Pieper does not accord the Verba Christi a m...While Pieper does not accord the Verba Christi a magical nature to effect Christ's presence apart from the usus of the sacrament, he affirms "the bread and Christ's body are so united in the Lord's Supper that they are received with the mouth in one undivided act..." [II, p. 362]. In order to be received, they must both be present in the distribution. Luther maintains that through Christ's institution a "sacramental union" has come about in the Lord's Supper... He says:'Here two things have become one; I would call that a sacramental union because both are given us... [III, p. 363]. And again, "The Sacrament, instituted by Christ, comes into being not by the sate of the administrant, nor by the faith of the communicants, but by the Word of Christ...which to the end of time experts its power.... solely Christ's word of promise and command causes Christ's body and blood to be present... [III, p. 365]. And "because of His command, that He has enjoined us so to speak and to do, and bound His command and action to our speaking" [III, p. 366]. "not the work of any man produces the true presence of the body and blood of Christ in the Supper, not the merit of the minister nor the eating and drinking or faith of the communicant... but all this should be ascribed alone to the power of Almighty God and the word, institution, and ordination of our Lord Jesus Christ... for the true and almighty words of Jesus Christ which He spake at the first institution were efficacious not only at the first Supper but they endure, are valid, operate, and are still effication so that in all placed where the Supper is celebrated according to the institution of Christ and His words are used, the body and blood of Christ are truly PRESENT, DISTRIBUTED, AND RECEIVED... [III, p. 366]. So Pieper is clearly not a receptionist although some take his words out of context in order to make him sound like one...Pastor Petershttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10653554256101480140noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329600504016968888.post-52099216258784397222011-01-03T15:48:24.165-06:002011-01-03T15:48:24.165-06:00To receive the bread in the mouth is
part of our L...To receive the bread in the mouth is<br />part of our Lutheran heritage since<br />we believe that elements do not <br />become the body and blood of Christ<br />until they are consumed by the<br />communicant. Of course this is<br />taught in Pieper's Christian Dogmatics to all LCMS seminarians.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329600504016968888.post-70070022146459691662011-01-03T13:13:35.912-06:002011-01-03T13:13:35.912-06:00I noticed rather surprisingly that the new book *L...I noticed rather surprisingly that the new book *Lutheranism 101* doesn't even mention receiving in the mouth as an option. Someone was asleep at the wheel on that one. We have about 1/2 of the folks who still receive in the mouth and I invariably do when I am communing elsewhere.William Weedonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01383850332591975790noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329600504016968888.post-76970389790274028412011-01-03T12:44:44.065-06:002011-01-03T12:44:44.065-06:00There are 3 questions of self-exam
before we parta...There are 3 questions of self-exam<br />before we partake of Holy Communion.<br />Am I truly repentant of my sins?<br />Do I believe Christ died on the <br />cross to forgive my sins?<br />With God's help will I amend my<br />sinful life?<br /><br />Is it really necessary to have 5 <br />guidelines for proper decorum to<br />receive the bread? Martin Luther<br />did not want us to adore the bread<br />and fall into idolatry.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329600504016968888.post-54212019512963516612011-01-03T11:45:04.345-06:002011-01-03T11:45:04.345-06:00I have a niece called Bertha (age 7). Something wr...I have a niece called Bertha (age 7). Something wrong with that?Tapani Simojokihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06050897388566829272noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329600504016968888.post-35476354293952701382011-01-03T11:03:58.031-06:002011-01-03T11:03:58.031-06:00Little Bertha?? Who names their kid Bertha??Little Bertha?? Who names their kid Bertha??Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329600504016968888.post-57331070854148758072011-01-03T09:21:18.780-06:002011-01-03T09:21:18.780-06:00Concerning decorum guideline #1, it can colloquial...Concerning decorum guideline #1, it can colloquially be called "body snatching". I can't take credit for that one.<br /><br />Also, if you receive the Body of Christ in the hand, do not, after receiving the Host, sweep the crumbs out of your receiving hand with the other hand. Just don't.<br /><br />Thanks for this post, Pr. Peters.Rev. David M. Juhlhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05319689931375689421noreply@blogger.com