tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329600504016968888.post6197649124813414380..comments2024-03-27T15:47:46.091-05:00Comments on Pastoral Meanderings: Provocative or Public Offense?Pastor Petershttp://www.blogger.com/profile/10653554256101480140noreply@blogger.comBlogger9125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329600504016968888.post-91385866288564481232012-08-11T12:57:58.558-05:002012-08-11T12:57:58.558-05:00I am a recovering ex-member of the ELCA. I left b...I am a recovering ex-member of the ELCA. I left basically because as you say, it had no doctrinal position - at least when I needed to be reminded of Christ. I got tired of being told how special and spiritual they were and that I should be. In the end, I had to cut myself off from that spiritual poison for my own survival. I am not a good enough "Christian" to not need the Gospel.<br /><br />Any treatment of the ills of the ELCA that does not face this misses the point, IMHOKen McGuirenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329600504016968888.post-51177330762971871522012-08-09T16:47:58.039-05:002012-08-09T16:47:58.039-05:00FWIW my point here was not ELCA bashing (good spor...FWIW my point here was not ELCA bashing (good sport that it might be). Rather, my point was that what has happened with the official periodical of a church body takes positions in opposition to the stated claims and confessions of that church body? How can the official house organ of a church become the opposition press? Can such an adversarial relationship with its own confession continue without destroying either the journal or the church that publishes it? Does not such impugnity with the stated confessions and beliefs of a church body mean that nothing is believed, confessed, and taught?<br /><br />What does this mean? That was my point -- if however unclearly stated.Pastor Petershttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10653554256101480140noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329600504016968888.post-16004835520688476262012-08-08T16:03:14.056-05:002012-08-08T16:03:14.056-05:00Okay, okay, we get it. The ELCA is bad, very bad. ...Okay, okay, we get it. The ELCA is bad, very bad. Horrible. Demonic. Anti-Christ. Etc. Etc. Got it. Really. Now, may we please move on? Or should this blog be renamed, "Pastoral Dead Horse Beating"?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329600504016968888.post-77771635867571779702012-08-08T12:56:28.342-05:002012-08-08T12:56:28.342-05:00A five year old article?
In the subsequent years...A five year old article? <br /><br />In the subsequent years, the ELCA's 2009 statement on human sexuality--whatever else might be wrong with it--is clear that physical sexual intimacy is legitimate only in marriage.<br /><br />There must be more recent things to find wrong with the ELCA. Lots more.Markhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15367794476576131453noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329600504016968888.post-72578143133244208802012-08-08T10:44:36.261-05:002012-08-08T10:44:36.261-05:00Here is the appropriate magazine logo.Here is the appropriate <a href="http://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-63LPtU7jL8Q/UCKGa_ojyiI/AAAAAAAAAfg/BdqONeh9-QU/s640/theLufauxran.jpg" rel="nofollow">magazine logo</a>.Carl Vehsehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00348831096001668813noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329600504016968888.post-2168794885241700042012-08-08T10:23:32.746-05:002012-08-08T10:23:32.746-05:00It's funny, they're okay with breaking the...It's funny, they're okay with breaking the commandments so that they may talk with experience about forgiveness and really understand it.<br /><br />I wonder if they think people should break the laws of the land so that they may talk with experience about the justice system and really understand it?Jon Bakkerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16513172813708585923noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329600504016968888.post-54335635191361026892012-08-08T10:10:13.980-05:002012-08-08T10:10:13.980-05:00The ELCA is an apostate church
which has mocked Go...The ELCA is an apostate church<br />which has mocked God's Word on<br />so many issues. Co-habitation<br />is a sin according to Holy<br />Scriptures. We are not to do<br />anything as a church to encourage<br />this lifestyle.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329600504016968888.post-33201152102090005692012-08-08T09:39:18.273-05:002012-08-08T09:39:18.273-05:00Let the ELCA and TEC and other heretics continue t...Let the ELCA and TEC and other heretics continue to destroy themselves.Chrishttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06200319733737651773noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329600504016968888.post-5738481408485960932012-08-08T07:47:05.930-05:002012-08-08T07:47:05.930-05:00I was in the ELCA. It is full of unbelievers. By...I was in the ELCA. It is full of unbelievers. By that I mean they just plain don't believe the Bible, nor that God has the authority to tell them what to do. There was a thin veneer of churchiness but when you discuss any topic, it quickly became apparent who was a believer and who was not. In the case of our church, there was an incident with the pastor and the youth about some discussions he was leading with them that caused many of the actual believers to leave. That is probably not unlike many parishes. The ELCA has purged itself of much of the true church that was there, leaving more space for and less resistance to those teaching unbelief, immorality and heresies.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com