tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329600504016968888.post6596236463552173675..comments2024-03-27T15:47:46.091-05:00Comments on Pastoral Meanderings: Interesting...Pastor Petershttp://www.blogger.com/profile/10653554256101480140noreply@blogger.comBlogger5125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329600504016968888.post-29212367578574686102011-10-14T19:16:49.438-05:002011-10-14T19:16:49.438-05:00For the cat's sake, why just the other day thi...For the cat's sake, why just the other day this Catholic down the street ran out the house, said "Judas chanting Priest if I can stand another minute singing in English with its disconnect with the psalmody of the ancient church", then the guy across the street ran out damn near tripping over the IHM statue in the lawn and said "You too? I thought I was the only one" and as they marched toward the parish down the street others joined too, and now there's a vocal demonstration outside the rectory demanding an EF Mass in the regular Sunday schedule.Terry Maherhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17122266461403246084noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329600504016968888.post-2650257938036196882011-10-14T16:54:30.478-05:002011-10-14T16:54:30.478-05:00Uhhhh, "You are wrong though to assume that t...Uhhhh, "You are wrong though to assume that the drop off in Mass attendance is NOT due to English supplanting the Latin Extraordinary Rite."<br /><br />I think you read him wrong. He said this very thing was "not in the least" which means it was a significant reasonAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329600504016968888.post-45009091418533647572011-10-14T16:49:53.012-05:002011-10-14T16:49:53.012-05:00This comment has been removed by the author.Pastor Petershttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10653554256101480140noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329600504016968888.post-73344118790814279772011-10-14T16:28:53.231-05:002011-10-14T16:28:53.231-05:00Come, come, Fr. Peters. Lutherans are by NO means...Come, come, Fr. Peters. Lutherans are by NO means exempt from the gladiators doing battles over words which are more faithful translations. I've seen it many times myself.<br /><br />You are wrong though to assume that the drop off in Mass attendance is NOT due to English supplanting the Latin Extraordinary Rite. More and more young Catholics are clamoring for that and saying that the English and the Novus Ordo are precisely the reasons because they are, in their minds, irreverent and disconnected.<br /><br />With regards to language in the liturgy, English is a horrible language for singing hymns to God. It really is. Its metrics do not conform to the psalmody of the Ancient Church, whether Gregorian or Byzantine, hence why they are being more and more discouraged. As a chanter in the Greek Church, I absolutely hate to chant our hymns in English so I do as much as I can in Greek. It flows better and it conforms to the Byzantine system much better. A recessive psalmody for a recessive language.Chrishttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06200319733737651773noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329600504016968888.post-45675204232295994532011-10-14T08:21:49.844-05:002011-10-14T08:21:49.844-05:00The point is indeed a remarkable one. But not new...The point is indeed a remarkable one. But not new. This has been going on for forty some years. You want to see "foisted" -- you should have seen the imposition of what is being replaced. It was remarked then that the new and open church on a less mediaeval authoritarian model was open only to those who did not oppose it, just like the one before.<br /><br />So being foisted on or imposed upon is not the issue at all. The issue is what is sought to be foisted and imposed. "You will be assimilated" is the is the motto of all camps.<br /><br />One difference this time. As you note, the original imposition was of a new Mass including any Latin one. Now it is the imposition of a new translation of the Latin of the new Mass. The new Mass remains imposed as the ordinary form of worship of the Roman Church. If the earlier imposition was wrong, a better translation of it means nothing.<br /><br />And you are right too -- we have no horse in this race. In view of which, we should put our bastard horses bred after the model of the novus ordo out to pasture.Terry Maherhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17122266461403246084noreply@blogger.com