tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329600504016968888.post7766083896157477904..comments2024-03-27T15:47:46.091-05:00Comments on Pastoral Meanderings: The power of unity. . . Pastor Petershttp://www.blogger.com/profile/10653554256101480140noreply@blogger.comBlogger8125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329600504016968888.post-65467724366089821532019-09-06T15:15:10.941-05:002019-09-06T15:15:10.941-05:00And people accuse Carl Vehse of being a heartless ...And people accuse Carl Vehse of being a heartless clod!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329600504016968888.post-25999826585287465582019-09-03T23:00:54.663-05:002019-09-03T23:00:54.663-05:00Discord...and don't forget just leading up to ...Discord...and don't forget just leading up to the Convention the COP, presented by its head David Maier, has to issue a statement to address (his part along with the CM people) outright slandering of SP Harrison over Selma and Hong Kong! Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329600504016968888.post-19746981202941580412019-09-03T18:33:05.169-05:002019-09-03T18:33:05.169-05:00Resolution Resolution 7-05, To Recognize and Give ...Resolution Resolution 7-05, To Recognize and Give Thanks for Work at Selma, is printed on <a href="https://files.lcms.org/wl/?id=KuJNmMBOaTz54nqcyjk0Hbx1eVuOXTmt" rel="nofollow">2019 Today's Business, 1st Issue</a> (p. 105).<br /><br />It was brought to the floor as noted in the <a href="https://lcms.app.box.com/v/2019-minutes-4#page=7" rel="nofollow">2019 Convention Minutes, Session 8 (pp. 7-8)</a> and the discussion of Resolution 7-05, starts in the <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JtWq-NUChZ4&t=157m13s" rel="nofollow">Session 8 video</a> at 2:37:13. After several attempts to amend the resolution by removing various WHEREASs providing factual imformation about why Selma was closed, the orders of the day were called with the motion on 7-05 still pending.<br /><br />On Thursday, <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=siu7xnZC_2U&t=220m48s" rel="nofollow">Convention Chairman Harrison reintroduced</a> a final motion to consider the unamended resolution and, after reading the <i>Resolved</i>s, with no opportunity for debate, presented it to the convention, which adopted Resolution 7-05 with a majority verbal affirmation. And, two days later, the Yankee Stadium spiritual adulterer <a href="https://alpb.org/Forum/index.php?topic=7231.msg462828#msg462828" rel="nofollow">accused</a> the Missouri Synod of being guilty of systematic racism.Carl Vehsehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00348831096001668813noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329600504016968888.post-66705532573492101652019-09-03T15:01:11.759-05:002019-09-03T15:01:11.759-05:00The area of discord surrounded the closing of Conc...The area of discord surrounded the closing of Concordia Selma. Many of our African American delegates expressed feeling blindsided by the move. Synod had in good faith attempted numerous routes to keep the school open, and communicated when it was deemed an impossibility. Sadly, some folks decided to use this painful issue as a political football to portray the Synod as “not caring” about black ministry (not true), being racist (not true), and being secretive (not true). There were some very cruel political stunts pulled during this whole debate, but the over all affect on the assembly was the recognition that even when you have done what you regard as the very best that you CAN do, you can still leave a brother or sister hurt or wounded. And so the confession and absolution. It really was a cruel thing to make this political when there were so very many hurting folks on all sides of the discussion. And some have repeatedly portrayed Synod’s resolution (which was the occasion of this debate) as “thanking God for the closing of Selma” when it was actually “thanking God for the blessing Selma has been to our Synod across the years”. However, the very good thing, I think, that came out of it all was perhaps the realization that sometimes Synod is certain it has communicated and communicated situations clearly, and yet it is entirely possible for those communications never to be heard, digested, received. And so I don’t doubt that there were folks speaking truthfully about being blindsided by the closing just as those spoke truthfully who said that the situation had been communicated clearly and that every conceivable attempt had been made to save the school. And sometimes, sometimes we move past a brother’s or sister’s hurt or pain too quickly. It was good that the assembly assumed some of that pain into itself and wept a bit with those who weep. That is what the Apostle enjoins us to do.William Weedonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01383850332591975790noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329600504016968888.post-21304187201698242932019-09-03T13:38:12.270-05:002019-09-03T13:38:12.270-05:00I wish somebody who was at the convention would re...I wish somebody who was at the convention would report on the areas of discord you are alluding to. We are in the dark. I do believe there are differences of opinion between some pastors who are "progressive" and traditionalists. Could this split the Synod? I guess all we can do is stay tuned.John Joseph Flanaganhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06596324816480709495noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329600504016968888.post-4609248069663234382019-09-03T11:15:13.565-05:002019-09-03T11:15:13.565-05:00FWIW, the “Roman confession” used in the opening l...FWIW, the “Roman confession” used in the opening liturgy has been part of our praying since LW came out in 1982 (closing in on 40 years now). It’s the confession of sins from Compline, Prayer at the Close of the Day, and thus folks who pray the prayer offices in our hymnal would be familiar with it. If you’re curious why I chose it, it was because this had been a tough run up to convention with lots of nasty and negative words. I thought it would be a particularly powerful way to begin convention with President Harrison confessing that he had sinned and being absolved by the assembly, and then the assembly confessing their sins and receiving forgiveness through him. And none of that vitiates the vital point that Fr. Peters made. He was not speaking out of both sides of his mouth at all. As Christians we freely confess our sins and live together under the forgiveness of sins and the liturgy provides ways we learn to speak this forgiveness to each other.William Weedonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01383850332591975790noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329600504016968888.post-86864125240984333702019-09-03T08:50:20.331-05:002019-09-03T08:50:20.331-05:00How does the sentiment praising page 15 in this po...How does the sentiment praising page 15 in this post mesh with the intentional use of the Roman confession that none of us are familiar with in the opening Divine Service? Both sides of the mouth, much?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329600504016968888.post-39222684814582422492019-09-03T08:04:22.833-05:002019-09-03T08:04:22.833-05:00Good Morning Pastor,
I was there. It was bad disc...Good Morning Pastor,<br /><br />I was there. It was bad discussion about Selma, but a very good move by pastor Weedon. I could only follow the service he improvised because of God's gift of my faithful pastor and the hymnal. Good post, spot on!<br /><br />BMC Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com