tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329600504016968888.post8116430289382725080..comments2024-03-29T04:31:15.219-05:00Comments on Pastoral Meanderings: Desecularization. . . Pastor Petershttp://www.blogger.com/profile/10653554256101480140noreply@blogger.comBlogger6125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329600504016968888.post-89036365170839315302016-06-22T12:43:34.623-05:002016-06-22T12:43:34.623-05:00Maybe our current problem is therefore not that so...<i>Maybe our current problem is therefore not that society is secularizing but rather the opposite—that the American church is finally being forced to desecularize.</i><br /><br />I would argue that some parts of the American church are becoming <i>more</i> secular - and therefore less Christian. Recovering Lutheranhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14681139117745192567noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329600504016968888.post-38134664706380510922016-06-22T09:23:42.957-05:002016-06-22T09:23:42.957-05:00America was not a Christian nation in a theocratic...America was not a Christian nation in a theocratic sense but the majority of its people were informed by a Christian world view, even many who were not personally Christian. That is no longer so.David Grayhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11966977894876326659noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329600504016968888.post-19079421050504274262016-06-22T09:12:52.821-05:002016-06-22T09:12:52.821-05:00The call for "hunkering down" seems to l...The call for "hunkering down" seems to lack any call for Christians, as part of the government (<i>We, the People</i>), to carrying out their responsibilities under Romans 13, especially vs 4., in bringing to justice elected and appointed representatives and their supporters, who have legalized and funded genocide, committed crimes against humanity, attempted to destroy the Constitution, and given aid and comfort to the enemy. That justice is through trial, conviction, and sentencing, and execution. And it is the responsibility of <i>We, the People</i>, particularly Christians, to work so that honest men are elected or appointed to carry out that justice.<br /><br />The Christian's task is not easy, especially in this current demonic kakistocracy, but that is no excuse for simply "hunkering down."Carl Vehsehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00348831096001668813noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329600504016968888.post-65297960609910130492016-06-22T08:39:45.111-05:002016-06-22T08:39:45.111-05:00Janis, I disagree with those who continually utter...Janis, I disagree with those who continually utter the false statement that America was never a Christian nation. Americans were historically Christians in overwhelming numbers. We were never a theocracy, however, we were almost entirely Christian. A minority of other non Christian religions were present, but Christianity was our major religious faith. I worked for a period of about two years in 2006-8 as a Cemetery Representative at a national veterans cemetery in New York, and with thousands of headstones lined in rows one thing was predominant. Over ninety percent were inscripted with the Christian Cross. Only God can judge the true Faith of those buried Christian Americans, but nevertheless they were part of an overwhelmingly Christian nation.<br /><br /><br />John Joseph Flanaganhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06596324816480709495noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329600504016968888.post-20564567464198590352016-06-22T08:26:36.294-05:002016-06-22T08:26:36.294-05:00American Christians live in a culture in which our...American Christians live in a culture in which our identities have been formed and nourished, however, it is becoming more evident that we now have a hedonistic and paganized society which is rejecting God and His word on a catastrophic scale. I use the word "catastrophic" with heartfelt grief and pain. I have lived 71 years as an American Christian, and have never seen political correctness and anti-Christian sentiment as nefarious as today. As the world values have influenced the once faithful, we see some churches absorbing sinful values on sexuality and watering down scripture to aid in the secularization process. This is the same dangerous path followed by the children of Israel in OT history, and after failing to listen to the prophets, God rendered His discipline and judgment.John Joseph Flanaganhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06596324816480709495noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329600504016968888.post-7279707790365710562016-06-22T08:24:37.283-05:002016-06-22T08:24:37.283-05:00This hits the proverbial nail on the head. I hear...This hits the proverbial nail on the head. I hear so many of my family, friends and acquaintances being wistful over the loss of the "Christian Nation," America. We were never a theocracy, nor a "Christian Nation," and I doubt seriously the past as they wish for it can be resurrected (nor should it be). We as believers must hold to Truth and sound doctrine whether we are respected, appreciated or liked for it. It will be costly, It will likely hit us first in the wallet, which should thin the ranks. My prayer is Christ will hold us close to Him, and make us faithful.Janis Williamshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02947508427040251166noreply@blogger.com