tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329600504016968888.post8432629746288469466..comments2024-03-29T09:20:16.581-05:00Comments on Pastoral Meanderings: Holy Hide and Seek. . .Pastor Petershttp://www.blogger.com/profile/10653554256101480140noreply@blogger.comBlogger5125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329600504016968888.post-39099253143480962232013-11-19T15:02:12.427-06:002013-11-19T15:02:12.427-06:00Dr. D,
The first is in reference to your refusal ...Dr. D,<br /><br />The first is in reference to your refusal to identify yourself as a man ought and to cloak yourself in anonymity and the excuse given because you are such a formidable opponent of US foreign policy.<br /><br />1a. Pastor Peters can correct me if I err but Luther taught the concept of the "sacramental union." The bread is bread but when joined with the Word in the sacrament is also Christ's body. Yet as Chemnitz observed we do not masticate Christ, but merely the bread. And as 1st Corinthians 11:27 points out when we eat we are eating bread. This is not transubstantiation. <br /><br />1b. Any good confessional Presbyterian will disagree with that statement. Not all Presbyterians are good or confessional. <br /><br />2. Many of us take using wine seriously as opposed to the temperance movement toy of grape juice. Leaved vs unleavened is a subject of disagreement.<br /><br />3. Many are committed to regular attendance at the Lord's Table. The first part of your question is leaning too introspectively. Communion at the Lord's Table should help me take my eyes off myself and look at Christ.<br /><br />It most certainly a false witness to accuse those who you accuse of not believing in God's existence.<br /><br />And regarding Anglicanism you are whistling past the graveyard, which is where most orthodox Anglicans reside. The occasional Anglican church here or there has health but most of the body worldwide is rotten and even the "conservatives" in Africa who won't publicly embrace sodomy still will ordain women. <br /><br />It is a pity but the truth cannot be denied. The church of Ridley and Latimer is a desolation.David Grayhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11966977894876326659noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329600504016968888.post-75544609195222260242013-11-19T07:46:54.954-06:002013-11-19T07:46:54.954-06:00Dear David,
I have to ask you for some explanatio...Dear David,<br /><br />I have to ask you for some explanation of your comment, please.<br /><br />How did you connect my comment with what I think (or may not think) about the US foreign policy establishment?<br /><br />Was it not Christ Himself who said, Matthew 7:20 "Wherefore by their fruits ye shall know them"?<br /><br />How many Methodists, Baptists, Presbyterians, Disciples of Christ, etc. do you know ---<br /><br />1. who will wholeheartedly agree that the Communion elements are the true Body and Bloods of Jesus Christ? who will not say that the Holy Communion is just a memory jog or re-enactment of something done by Christ long ago?<br /><br />2. who take seriously the use of the proper unleavened bread and wine? who do not substitute leavened bread, crackers, or grape juice?<br /><br />3. who show in their lives that they are truly spiritually fed in the Holy Communion? who are committed to regular, frequent attendance at the Lord's Table?<br /><br />It is not "false witness" to apply the rule given to us by Jesus Himself.<br /><br />Anglicanism is certainly not without its faults. One of the worst was opening the way to contraception at the 1930 Lambeth Conference. But please, do not confuse the Episcopal Church-USA with all Anglicans. ECUSA went off the rails many years ago with Bp. Pike, Bp. Spong, Bp. Righter, et, al., but that does not reflect Anglicanism as a whole.<br /><br /><br /><br />Dr.Dhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18360786634583725263noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329600504016968888.post-651783908270379632013-11-18T14:48:34.696-06:002013-11-18T14:48:34.696-06:00"Dr. D"
The US foreign policy establish..."Dr. D"<br /><br />The US foreign policy establishment may tremble at your opposition but that is a cheap shot. Non-confessional protestants have a lot of problems but it is a false witness to assert they don't believe in God's existence. And most of them are in churches which haven't been in the vanguard of error in the way that Anglicans have for many decades.David Grayhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11966977894876326659noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329600504016968888.post-5211175371757640472013-11-18T13:40:14.140-06:002013-11-18T13:40:14.140-06:00Most protestants teach and firmly believe in the &...Most protestants teach and firmly believe in the "real absence." To accept that God is really present in His Word and Sacraments would mean then that they would have to believe that He really exists. You can see where that could lead -- if He really exists, then His commandments place real demands on your life. You could not be "free" to live the life you want, having it your own way. That would be just unacceptable to far too many today.<br /><br />Most find it much easier to simply talk about a God in which they do not really believe, that to accept the reality of God, whether they believe in Him or not.Dr.Dhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18360786634583725263noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329600504016968888.post-74820140516016734912013-11-18T10:54:31.039-06:002013-11-18T10:54:31.039-06:00Love this. I was talking to my Pastor yesterday, ...Love this. I was talking to my Pastor yesterday, and we were discussing the fact that Lutheran doctrine makes God and His presence very real. When my sins overwhelm me and life comes crashing down, I don't need to be told that God is somewhere out there, waiting for me to come to Him, vague and undefined. I need to be embraced by Him and be one with Him by eating the body and drinking the blood. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com