Clear your calendar, Lutherans, and plan to be there or be square...
This is happening in New Jersey but it is homegrown in the LCMS, in Arkansas, and the Lutheran Pastor (on the drums) and his flock are the model of missional mission paradigms for much of our Synod... What think you? (BTW noticeably absent from the video were the words means of grace or Word and Sacrament -- but why be nit picky.)
We faced this in a Presbyterian church we attended. On our long journey to Lutheranism (and Truth, and Liturgy, and the Real Presence), this was one of the curbs between which we careened.
What I want to know is, WHICH Jesus are these, ahem, Lutherans worshipping?
Missional 'theology' came out of the World Council of Churches, and an (if memory serves me) Anglican missionary to India. The main point was that God was everywhere, and was being worshipped by indigenous people even before the Gospel was brought to them.
Evidently in American Pop Culture's predilection to make everything about "me," it's become another way to ignore Scripture. It has become: "WE can worship god (intentional lower case) in any way WE choose. Should Moses be here, he might grind those drums to powder and make people drink them.
My greatest discomfort with contemporary worship is the way its practitioners target the children and youth. It seems absurd to withhold from our children our wonderful tradition of beautiful and useful hymns which so faithfully teach and feed our little ones only the songs of contemporary style. They are being robbed of their heritage as well as being denied the full teaching of these lovely hymns. I feel sorry for the young children who are put in this position. We need to train and teach our children good practices so that when they are grown they can teach their children. As it stands, these contemporary styles eventually will be abandoned and the people will have little from childhood to which they can cling. Contemporary styles are inherently transitory. The ancient worship styles have endured thousands of years. I have got a bad feeling about this.
They got worship all backwards! Call me selfish, but I go to church to be fed and nourished by God through the means of Grace: Word and Sacrament! I'm thankful He is there serving me. How can there be two so very different ways of looking at what worship really is? Especially by "Lutherans?"
Horrors.
ReplyDeleteWe faced this in a Presbyterian church we attended. On our long journey to Lutheranism (and Truth, and Liturgy, and the Real Presence), this was one of the curbs between which we careened.
What I want to know is, WHICH Jesus are these, ahem, Lutherans worshipping?
Missional 'theology' came out of the World Council of Churches, and an (if memory serves me) Anglican missionary to India. The main point was that God was everywhere, and was being worshipped by indigenous people even before the Gospel was brought to them.
Evidently in American Pop Culture's predilection to make everything about "me," it's become another way to ignore Scripture. It has become: "WE can worship god (intentional lower case) in any way WE choose. Should Moses be here, he might grind those drums to powder and make people drink them.
I think I'll be square, and not be there, thank you very much!
ReplyDeleteDetestable, and NOT Lutheran...or Christian for that matter.
ReplyDeleteMy greatest discomfort with contemporary worship is the way its practitioners target the children and youth. It seems absurd to withhold from our children our wonderful tradition of beautiful and useful hymns which so faithfully teach and feed our little ones only the songs of contemporary style. They are being robbed of their heritage as well as being denied the full teaching of these lovely hymns. I feel sorry for the young children who are put in this position. We need to train and teach our children good practices so that when they are grown they can teach their children. As it stands, these contemporary styles eventually will be abandoned and the people will have little from childhood to which they can cling. Contemporary styles are inherently transitory. The ancient worship styles have endured thousands of years. I have got a bad feeling about this.
ReplyDeleteYou can worship any way you like.
ReplyDeleteDid God really say...?
Now, who talks like that?
They got worship all backwards! Call me selfish, but I go to church to be fed and nourished by God through the means of Grace: Word and Sacrament! I'm thankful He is there serving me.
ReplyDeleteHow can there be two so very different ways of looking at what worship really is? Especially by "Lutherans?"
I always find it interesting that these progressive, contemporary churches almost always leave out that they are Lutheran Churches.
ReplyDeleteWhy is that?
What does "pointe" mean in the name of some of these new churches -- if I'm allowed to call them churches?
This is neither Christian theology nor Christian worship. I'm not sure what it is, but I'm sure where it DIDN'T come from --
ReplyDeleteActs 2:42 usw.
Sir, if you plan to worship God, would you please be so kind as to remove your hat in the house of the Lord?
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