There were those in Rome who seemed to tire of the unbending theological integrity of JP2 and B16. Both were professorial in a church where some longed for a more communal and informal leader. Much is made of the vestments worn (or not) but I think this says little about JP2 or B16. They were clearly servants of the office and of the church they served and they wore what was the given vesture of the office. And therein is perhaps the greater difference between them and Francis. Francis is the picture perfect pope for modernity -- he eschews the trappings of the office and opens his arms and his mouth with words that seem to imply "lets just be friends." He is no one to judge, wishes a more welcoming stance toward gays and divorced, is not so sure about capitalism, and wants to be seen as pastoral more than anything else.
But... and there is the rub. Francis is more papal than JP2 or B16. Both of them worked incrementally and acted more in concert with their forebears and collegially with their fellow bishops than Francis does. He appears to egalitarian but he acts more arbitrarily than either of his predecessors. He seems not to abide dissent while JP2 and B16 patiently endured the slings and arrows of the liberals (especially among the American crowd -- including one nun who presumed to tell the pope what to do with women and the priesthood). In contrast Francis has had it with people who won't go along with his agenda (I thinking here of his actions toward traditionalist Cardinal Burke and other papal appointments or demotions). He listens to the voice of the bishops without hearing and when they vote contrary to his desire, he ignores them and inserts paragraphs into the final report of the extraordinary synod that they rejected. He is his own man but not in the right way.
The public and press seem to be cheering him on but this pope is more autocratic and papal than his recent predecessors and he is too much a pope for me. Any pope who sees himself above his church, smarter than the bishops, willing to act on his own to get what he wants, unwilling to tolerate dissent from those whose worst criticism is to move more slowly and not to depart from the tradition of the church, well, that is too much pope for this Lutheran. In the end Francis acts more as a solitary figure than either B16 or JP2 and this is exactly the kind of pope which makes Lutherans suspicious.
I was warming up to B16 and thought this is one guy who understands more of Lutherans than those who went before him (including Leo X) but I am completely turned off by Francis. He is too papal for this Lutheran. Yes, he may dress more simply and live (at least in appearance) more commonly than other popes but his actions and words indicate he is more enamored with his power than I am comfortable with (and has made many with the Roman Catholic Church also uneasy).
Francis, like Obama, is a good talker but it seems he says what the people in the particular audience want to hear and does not necessarily betray much of his own personal convictions or intentions. He is like those in Missouri who want to separate substance and style, who think you can keep the theory but change the practice. As I have often said, if you act like an Evangelical on Sunday morning, you will end up believing like one. This is exactly what bothers me most about Francis. He wants his church to act differently and shrugs his shoulders if this means a break with tradition.
Now to be sure, as a Lutheran I have not invested much in the debate about what to do with so many divorced Roman Catholics. But I AM invested in the way Rome moves its weight around on the issue of homosexuality, on what side it falls on the worship wars, etc... Why? Because when Rome sneezes, Lutherans get a cold. We have invested so much in Rome's post-Vatican II ideas of worship and it has done some of the same damage to us as it did to Rome. We stand together against abortion and euthanasia and assisted suicide (among the many pro-life issues) but this is exactly the kind of divisive issue that Francis seems to want to find wiggle room within. We stand together against the redefinition of marriage and family but I worry what damage will be done to the Lutheran hold outs against the gay agenda if Rome seems to capitulate even a little.
Nope, I would rather take the Rome of Benedict and his little red had trimmed in ermine and John Paul and his awful chanting and even Cardinal Burke and his long red capa more than this blue-jeaned Francis who wants us to find a way to be nicer, friendlier, and more winsome. He is exactly the kind of pope that scares a Lutheran like me and I think he should scare more of those outside of Rome and this within.
Francis is much more marxist than Catholic. For him, as for all marxist, the ends justify the means, and they never doubt the correctness of their own ideas. He is the greatest disaster possible for the Roman Church, and for Christianity in general.
ReplyDeleteThis is such a shock, coming on the heels of B16 who was such a profound theologian and scholar. I read much of the writings of B16, but I don't read or listen to anything from Francis because it just does not measure up.
Fr. D+
Anglican Priest
Why not just be true to our Christian faith and remember Rome is the apostate church which refuses to repent.
ReplyDeleteAccording to the Lutheran Confessions, JP2 and B16 were the Antichrist, and now Francis is the Antichrist.
ReplyDeleteQuote "too much pope for this Lutheran" and how would you know his heart...............or let us leave the judging.........
ReplyDeleteToo much pope, the Antichrist, etc. Both are epithets hurled at our current president. Neither men may be either, but I do think fascism is something they have in common.
ReplyDeleteIt is not useful to argue that since we cannot know someone's heart we may not draw conclusions from their deeds.
ReplyDeleteMr Bergoglio is a typical liberal, open to only those on his left, and intolerant of any dissent.
ReplyDeleteJohn F and Carl V:
ReplyDeleteMay God help you see your sins and repent of them.
Jim, are you making a general statement or do you have something specific in mind?
ReplyDeleteCarl:
ReplyDeleteI was thinking of your attitude towards other Christians and other Christian denominations, but I try very hard not to be a judge. (It is so easy to see the speck in your eye and miss the beam in my own.)
God loves all people: you, me, and leaders in other denominations.
Jim, your clairvoyance regarding my attitude towards other Christians is evidently dysfunctional. But, hey, keep working on trying hard not to be a judge.
ReplyDeleteIn the meantime, the confessional Lutheran position on the Antichrist still stands.
LMMV (Lufauxran mileage may vary)
I have yet to get a cold from the Pope.
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