Sunday, November 23, 2025

What fuels the craving?

So Pope Leo actually stumbled upon a profound observation:  I think sometimes the, say, ‘abuse’ of the liturgy from what we call the Vatican II Mass, was not helpful for people who were looking for a deeper experience of prayer, of contact with the mystery of faith that they seemed to find in the celebration of the Tridentine Mass.

That is Leospeak for if the new Mass were celebrated reverently and rightly, there would be no hankering for the old Mass.  Perhaps he is right.  I would assume that the foolish and casual manner in which most Novus Ordo Masses are celebrated and even the perfunctory attention given to non-scandalous celebrations have fueled the desire for the old.  Yet I am not sure it would be quite that simple.  Stealing what people knew and replacing it with something radically different remains part of the issue.  Yet, as interested as I am, it is not my problem.

I do wonder, however, if that might not be applicable to the Lutheran situation.  While there was uniformity of rites among nearly all Lutherans in the 1940s and 1950s, these were not golden years for the liturgy.  While we followed the Common Service, we did not practice what we confessed.  The Eucharist was a once a quarter add on to the dry Mass that had become normal.  Pastors did not preach from the lectionary but from a cycle of preaching texts different from the appointed pericopes.  Private confession was never spoken of and practiced even less.  We prided ourselves in being liturgical in the same way a health nut gloats over his impossible bean burger but wants it to taste like real meat.  Pastors wore academic gowns or the black gown of the Reformed.  We sang Methodist hymns with gusto and stole the rhythm from Lutheran chorales until they sang like the Methodist ones.  Who knows if Lutheranism would have had a real liturgical renewal or needed one if we had approached preaching and leading the Divine Service like our confessional documents expected?

Perhaps the quest for contemporary worship and music was born more of the desire to worship in an interesting manner as much as a relevant one.  It just might be that we would not have looked with such longing on the Evangelicals, Pentecostals, and Fundamentalists for our worship cues if we had been actually practicing what we preached.  I know that my interest in contemporary worship in college was fueled by the boredom with the lackluster celebrations of the Divine Service I grew up with -- long on formality but not quite confident that we wanted to be there doing what we were doing.  Naturally I looked at those who were genuinely excited to be in Church on Sunday morning as do most.  It was my experience with high church folks (what is what they were called then) that led me away from singing Amazing Grace to the melody of The House of the Rising Sun to chant and the Lutheran chorales that remain my favorites to this day.  I saw in these folks a reverence not of formality but of confidence that what we were doing was real and it was really delivering what it said.

Sadly, liturgical renewal betrayed us not with faulty forms as much as a fake idea of informality and what it meant to participate in the liturgy (we all get to be leaders).  Reverence and confidence in the liturgy to deliver what is being signed are the only way to satisfy our longing for relevance and reality, for honest food and a present feast upon the eternal miracle.  It is still appealing to me and, apparently to many folks far younger than my oldest vestments.  Smoke and mirrors will not satisfy but incense and mystery born of a conviction that God is here delivering His gifts and fitting us for eternity will satisfy and do it every week -- over and over again.  I am not looking for a deeper experience but I am expecting to receive what the words say and the means of grace promise.  Nothing more and nothing less -- except a presiding minister, choir, organist, and others who know this and want it, too.

There is sort of a cult rising up over Divine Service III.  In Rome it is the Latin Mass.  I do not get it.  It is not the rite that will rescue us from our desires to be happy clappy or casual or relevant.  While it is true we are our rites, this is true of the doctrine in them.  This is lex orandi lex credendi.  You cannot confess rightly what you worship wrongly.  And the other way around.  However, it is still possible to be formally correct yet without awareness of or confidence in the things that the liturgy says, does, and delivers.  Lackadaisical preaching and presiding will kill the grandest of liturgical acts.  It is reverence and the conviction that words matter, words deliver what they say, and the signs convey what they signify.  Where that happens, people will be fed and go home full to the brim of the foretaste of the eternal. 

 

6 comments:

John Flanagan said...

The tension between formality with legalism tied to worship ritual often results in confusion. Perhaps, the clergy considers these things more critically than the lay members of the congregation. Changes in liturgical worship and variations of style will happen regardless, and each generation of Christians feels the need to improve on the generation that came before them. There is no real possibility that the tension between tradition and modernity will abate. One wonders why we make our spiritual life and worship style more complicated than the Lord Himself would ask of us. Soli Deo Gloria

Carl Vehse said...

"While there was uniformity of rites among nearly all Lutherans in the 1940s and 1950s, these were not golden years for the liturgy."

But now that's all been changed (https://www.gottesdienst.org/gottesblog/2025/11/22/it-is-time-to-say-the-quiet-part-out-loud).

Carl Vehse said...

While there is a non-Communion liturgy in TLH (p. 5), congregations were not required to use it in place of the Communion liturgy (p. 15). If you are complaining because it is even in the TLH, you've had decades to challenged the doctrinal certification of the TLH with the Commission on Doctrinal Review.

During the 40s and 50ws, some LCMS pastors wore academic gowns or the black gown similar to what Martin Luther and other early Lutherans wore (https://lucascranach.org/imageserver-2022/DE_ESKStMW_NONE-ESKStMW001d_FR-none/06_Detail/DE_ESKStMW_NONE-ESKStMW001d_FR-none_2014-11_Detail-010-m.jpg). Today some LCMS pastors wear the kind of vestments, miters. and carry a crozier similar to those of the papists.

Today, Lutheran hymnals contain verses like "Loud boiling test tubes!" and "Loud rushing planets!", instead of "Amazing grace, how sweet the sound that saved a wretch like me."

"We might summarize the liturgical distinction between the parties in this way: Grabau worked in the direction "lex orandi lex credendi" (what is prayed in confessed); the Saxons worked it the other way, "lex credendi lex orandi" (what is confessed is prayed)." -- William M. Cwirla, "Grabau and the Saxon Pastors: The Doctrine of the Holy Ministry, 1840-1845" CHIQ 62 (1995)

Carl Vehse said...

It may be enlightening to make a comparison between the non-uniformity of rites (and doctrine) in the 40s and 50s, particularly among LCMS congregations, and the non-uniformity of rites (and doctrine) in the 10s and 20s among LCMS congregations today.

James said...

Pastor Peters wrote:

"There is sort of a cult rising up over Divine Service III. In Rome it is the Latin Mass. I do not get it. It is not the rite that will rescue us from our desires to be happy clappy or casual or relevant. While it is true we are our rites, this is true of the doctrine in them. This is lex orandi lex credendi."

I respond:

Why do you not get it? Why else are the Eastern Orthodox churches in the USA experiencing a flood of new converts? "Woke" pronouncements by all Popes since John Paul II notwithstanding, the Roman Catholic Church claims a comparable resurgence in membership.

How many converts to the EO or to Rome are permanent? How many of them will regret the decision? Why are disaffected Evangelicals and "nones" deciding to bypass the LCMS for Rome or for the EO?

Personally, I am eagerly waiting for LCMS congregations to replace DS 1, 2, and 4 from the LSB with the Lutheran Missal by The Gottesdienst Crowd.

LCMS Lutherans are trapped in Calvinist-ically plain, "mid (20th) century modern" church buildings that look tired and shabby. The architecture should strive to align with worship. Should the LCMS Lutherans modernize their buildings, or should the structures be renovated in order to look more ancient?

The LCMS continues to be at war with itself regarding the forging of a new identity. Those in seats of power and influence are currently fighting hard for the survival of LCMS RSOs and institutions that should have cut loose decades ago. For example, most Lutherans don't care about the Concordia universities, nor are they aware of the existence and purpose of most RSOs.

Should the LCMS seek to return to the glory days of the late 1800s during the time of Walther, or should it continue to evolve into a non-denominational church that happens to baptize babies? The pastor of my former LCMS congregation remains convinced that traditional worship is empty ritual and stale ceremony. Traditional worship reminds him of Seminex and of the "woke" mainlines such as the Anglicans. He still waits for the fulfilment of the promise of throngs of "young people" - anyone under the age of 35, who will pile in to the Lutheran church once it has remade itself into an image of King of Kings in Omaha.

I hold out hope that an increasing number of "young people" are tired of carnival barker preachers at the big box churches and are seeking something "deeper, more meaningful, and historic." My former LCMS pastor bet his entire career on converting a stagnant LCMS congregation into a thriving non-denominational one. I wonder if he is aware that the "young people" are now headed to more traditional churches.

"We have not transcended religion. We have transposed it. The hunger to believe, to belong, to be absolved and redeemed — these remain. What is lost is not faith, but the institutional forms that once gave faith structure."

--Ḥakham Isaac Choua
https://chouaisaac.substack.com/p/the-woke-liturgy-ritual-belief-and

James said...

You wrote: "There is sort of a cult rising up over Divine Service III. In Rome it is the Latin Mass. I do not get it."

Ask the EO and Rome why their parishes are growing, and you will have your answer.